NC Hauler wrote:
Terryallan wrote:
Actually the GVWR of a TT is a completely USELESS number for me. I only need to know the yellow sticker weight / actual dry weight of the TT as you see it sitting on the lot, to determine if I can tow a TT or not. After all. I know I will NEVER add enough weight to EVER get to the GVWR, UNLESS it is only 1000lbs over yellow sticker weight.
Why in the world would I need a TV that can tow 9000lb, when my TT weighs less than 6000lb loaded????????? Why can't I just use a TV that will easily tow what the TT really weighs, and not some fantasy weight.
I still want to know what y'all put in a trailer that add 2, and 3 thousand pounds. I have every thing I will ever use, and more, and added less than 1000lbs. And it gets lighter every year, as some things I don't use, come out every year.
But then I camp, I don't try to live in it.
The "Fantasy weight" IS the dry weight or "unloaded weight" NO ONE, NOT EVEN YOU, by your own admission tow a unit empty or dry....A fantasy number would be trying to "guess" how much one is going to load their unit to.
Don't recollect ANY ONE stating they add 2 to 3K to the unit...you must have selective reading or do some heavy "reading between the lines"...It's just as fantastical to figure one is going to tow at empty or dry weight as it is to stand there and state, "ok, I'm only going to load this unit to 875#.... Even you state, guess you have weight ticket to prove it, that you load to less than a 1,000#....that's still a lot of weight....
I'd prefer to figure "worse case" and purchase a vehicle that would handle the units GVW, then DON'T load truck to it's GVW, HEY, I'm covered, I'm there, I"ve got enough truck, no white knuckle towing,....Doesn't matter whether I live in it or go camping for a weekend
I'm with you and I agree folks like Terryallan need to be careful about comparing what they might have for a trailer wt to others. I'm not married to Lucy so no "ROCK COLLECTIONS", but we use our trailer for extended "ROAD TRIPS" of between 1 and 2 months so we have most of our available storage space in the trailer used. The only two items that are outside of what one would call the norm are probably like 3 to 4 VCR sized boxes of various parts for the trailer like PVC fittings, hoses, vinyl insert molding strips, etc., a NORCOLD MRFT-40 portable refer/freezer and one of the convertible coffee tables that can be used as a table. Also, we don't have boxes of extra food, water etc. in the trailer, but carry all that extra wt. in the Van so our cabinets while full aren't crammed by any means.
Our factory sticker shows a UVW of 4917 and a GVWR of 7549. It shows a stated CCC of 2204 and that includes 46gal of FW and 11gal of propane. We typically travel with around 15gal of FW total and two full 30lb propane tanks so for use our adjusted CCC would be in the neighborhood of 2204+258lbs(31gal water less)-14lbs(3 gal propane) 2448. The 7549 GVWR is based on a twin 3.5K axles and a 549 tongue wt. I am always at or slightly over the stated GVWR since my TT axle wts. are always between 6700 and 6900 and my dead tongue wt. as measured with my Sherline scale are between 900 and 950lbs. It's sort of hard to equate these CAT scaled TT axle wts. and the Sherline numbers since the CAT scale wts. are with my WDH engaged so some of that Sherline wt. show up as CAT scale axle wt. However, I would fee safe in saying I'm ALWAYS at or a couple of hundred lbs. OVER what the stated GVWR is for my TT.
There is no way for anyone to GUESTIMATE what someone else may or may not pack or what they take with them so suggesting anyone should "fantasize" some number other than a max would not IMO be the smart thing to do. As the old saying goes there is really no downside to having TOO much TV, but the opposite is definitely not the case.
Larry
