Road signs in UT

here is Canada, its considered a courtesy to use 4 ways if you are "considerably" below the speed limit

just like flashing your headlights when its safe for an overtaking vehicle to reenter your lane

its all about courtesy and common sense

we drive a relatively slow moving vehicle(like lots of us here), I want other drivers to pass us safely wether its a semi going 10 kmh faster or a car going 50 faster

I agree with Slowmover. Perhaps it is because I live in one of those "hazards only when stopped for hazards" states, but when I'm driving in heavy rain and/or fog and I come upon those flashing red lights, I'm kind of alarmed because:

1. Visibility is often so poor that it's often hard to just stay centered in my lane on the highway.

2. When vehicles pull off to wait out the conditions, they usually put on those four-way hazard flashers and that's what I'm conditioned to expect.

3. When I approach those flashers dead ahead of me, I ask myself: am I properly in the lane and just approaching a vehicle going really slow with their hazards on, or have I drifted off to the side and about to cream a stopped vehicle waiting out the conditions?

That's why I don't like the hazards activated on a vehicle while it's underway, with the possible exception of a mountain grade. But then, on a mountain grade, I'm naturally alerted to traffic with more varied speed than normal anyway.

Hazard lamps on when climbing grade BELOW Interstate minimum. That's below 45 in most states.

And, anyone passing said slow traffic with much more than 12-15/mph over the slow vehicles ought to be sidelined the rest of the day.

Since the Interstates were built I've always believed it wrong to have high speeds in mountains. Up or down grades.

I also disagree with states allowing travel with four ways on (except in above).

That set of flashing lamps should have the singular purpose of warning of slow traffic on a grade OR a disabled vehicle that is stopped. That the reaction by others should be to slow to the Interstate minimum.

Hazards are just that: hazardous.

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Bingo. Same here.

RoyF wrote:
On interstate highways, I use the same practice as most commercial trucks. When the speed limit is 70 or higher, I turn hazard lights on when my uphill speed drops below 50 mph.

Another situation for hazard lights is when I have to slow down because traffic ahead of me has slowed, and there is a large gap behind me. I try to get the attention of the car behind that may be bearing down and high speed.

Old-Biscuit wrote:
A little over HALF of states it is illegal to drive with 'hazard lights ON'

Rules in Your State
Driving with Active Hazards Lights Prohibited

Minnesota (except to indicate a traffic hazard)

So maybe that sign is necessary after all

While this may be true, I live in Minnesota and near a very long and steep incline on the interstate, which I travel quite often. Many of the tractor/trailer rigs ROUTINELY put on their flashers as they are climbing said grade, (in the 3rd lane) because they are going slower than most of the traffic as they haul heavy loads up the grade. I find this to be a very good and effective safety warning that the truck is moving quite slow. And I have never seen anyone pulled over for doing so.

I agree that driving along the highway at speeds that are above the minimum (40-45 mph) with your flashers on doesn't make sense.

Arcamper wrote:
I always thought Arkansas was a state but maybe we pulled out and no one told me.

We didn't make the list because nobody ever uses their turn signals in Arkansas, and we think that "funny triangle thingy" is the eject button for the CD player, except it must be broken cuz it never works. :W

:):)

Little off topic here, but if you want to talk about signs, speed limits, and all that, here's one in Indiana that probably just can't be beat anywhere! (Nothing about flashers mentioned here though)... :B

I had the "privilege" :M of using mine in Utah and in Arizona two weeks ago... Sign or no sign, permission or not!

We were talking our 5er to Mesa to be re-roofed. We left I-15 south of Beaver, onto 20 for a "scenic" drive. Much of my "scenery" was watching the speed drop (sometimes below 20 mph), when the "Fuel Rail Pressure Relief Valve" started lifting on those long, moderately steep roads. It was embarrassing :o and angering :M....But I did get to "test" the "emergency flasers" :R I'm usually "stuck" behind a slower vehicle. This time "I was, the slower vehicle"!

Old-Biscuit wrote:
A little over HALF of states it is illegal to drive with 'hazard lights ON'

Rules in Your State
Driving with Active Hazards Lights Prohibited

Alaska
Arizona (except in an emergency)
California (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Colorado (except if the vehicle speed is 25 mph or less)
Delaware (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Florida
Hawaii
Idaho (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Illinois
Indiana (except in an emergency)
Iowa (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Kansas
Louisiana
Maine (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Maryland (except in an emergency)
Massachusetts
Minnesota (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Montana (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Nevada
New Mexico
Ohio (except when a hazardous condition is present)
Oklahoma (except in emergency situations and to indicate a traffic hazard)
Rhode Island
South Carolina (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
Tennessee (except in emergency situations)
Virginia (except to indicate a traffic hazard or when traveling slower than 30 mph)
Washington (except to indicate a traffic hazard)
West Virginia (except in emergency situations)
Wisconsin (except to indicate a traffic hazard or when a hazardous condition is present)

Driving with Active Hazards Lights Allowed,

Alabama (unless otherwise posted)
Connecticut (unless otherwise posted)
District of Columbia
Georgia
Kentucky
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New York (unless otherwise posted)
North Carolina (unless otherwise posted)
North Dakota (unless otherwise posted)
Oregon (unless otherwise posted)
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Wyoming


So maybe that sign is necessary after all

I always thought Arkansas was a state but maybe we pulled out and no one told me.

I think the real answer is any speed under 40 mph up hills is what your going to see.

As far as speed limits are concerned, you have the right to drive the posted speed limit and I have the right to drive at 60 mph while towing.