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- LindsayRichardsExplorerThe diesel I was referring to is the small fuel injected ones in German passenger cars that have gotten so much news lately. You Volt was highly researched to the tune of $2.5 BILLION. You remember it was said to be the savior of GM. I know that the new large diesels for over the road trucks have made huge strides lately. The super RV IKON Renegade is reported to get 9.7 mpg at 45,000 pounds. Research is the key. I have many miles myself on an EV, 18 holes at a time.
- tomman58ExplorerWould you not be for a diesel that gave you 30 miles per with your beloved 5er or tt behind? Then why are you so moved and in sighted by these electric that: 1. you never drove, 2 you never owed and you never have had any knowledge of other then that that you read somewhere.
I find that the car I have has been well thought out and researched to the nines. Even my neighbor ( a Jap car fan) was drooling over this car for a 1/2 hour. I make no claims about it other then it serves me and my wife in our daily stuff. Maybe not your stuff but mine. To be out there ranting about oil this and oil that really does little to my bank account or yours.
We are but the little guys, victims of the world we live in. We have little or no control of gas prices not the profits gathered therein.
So in the spirit of RVing let me say that the inroads to these electric things can only help out our diesel things and the world we love. - LindsayRichardsExplorerFisker received a $529 MILLION loan to build 100,000 cars a year in the US. They closed their plant without ever building one. They have built less than 2000 in Norway and less than 500 have been sold. The car they sent to Consumer Reports suffered a catastrophic failure in their parking lot. When this failure happens the wheels won't turn and it had to be dragged onto a tow truck. Every car sold in the US has been recalled due to fires. Their battery maker A123 has gone bankrupt after a $250 MILLION loan from the US taxpayers and the skeleton of the company was sold and moved to China. They were to get their batteries from the folks making the Volt batteries, but they have had their share of fires also. Al Gore was to be the first Fisker dealer. You think Fisker is a success story? Then again, you claimed that 100% of your electricity comes from renewable sources. another fabrication.
It's the best looking car body ever. There are dozens of engines I'd love to see put in it.
Yep, no question about that. The tennie boopers Justin Bieber's. It doesn't need any stinking engine though. I love the look of the Telsa also. I have nothing against the EV's, it is just a waste of money now. I think the 55 mpg diesels are the way to go now that we have so much oil supply and will be able to get it. - cekkkExplorerIt's the best looking car body ever. There are dozens of engines I'd love to see put in it.
- tomman58Explorer
LindsayRichards wrote:
Fisker is now gone. No workers in USA and Norway is stopping. Too many fires in the battery. Justin Beiber (teen heartthrob) has one, but the taxpayers lost nearly half a BILLION dollars on this waste. I wish we would spend the money on research rather than on things doomed to fail. That is where success comes from.
Augest 24th 2012
Representatives of Fisker Automotive were in Monterey last week during the annual classic-car pilgrimage and made a few Karma sedans available for drives. Car Tech got a quick drive in Las Vegas during this year's CES, and while we still haven't gotten enough time with the car for a full review, our latest stint behind the wheel for about 10 miles gave us a better taste of its driving dynamics.
Most agree that the Karma is quite something to behold in the metal, and we are firmly in that camp. Extremely elongated and low, and riding on 22-inch wheels, it looks like no other sedan on the road. Exterior touches such as the curved full-roof solar panel and exhaust outlets just aft of the front wheels hint that something different is happening under the skin as well. The Karma also now emits a noise akin to a swarm of robot locusts as a pedestrian-warning feature.
Chateau Julien Wine Estate near Carmel Valley served as the start and end point for our drive, with Carmel Valley Road providing a nice mix of smooth straights and bumpy, tightening curves on the out-and-back route. A standard rear-view camera made maneuvering the Karma out of the winery's gated courtyard easier, and the steering was comfortably boosted at parking lot speeds. The central display screen is large and has a nice haptic feedback feel while controlling the standard modern array of infotainment options. The fully proprietary software seemed a touch laggy, but we'll wait for a full review to really compare it with larger manufacturers' systems.Under way, the Karma is, unsurprisingly, completely silent from the inside but for road and wind noise, although we never experienced the latter, as our drive was under about 45 mph. Even when the 2.0-liter gas engine is running, it's barely audible except at very slow speeds. As with the Tesla Roadster, the accelerator pedal has a pronounced engine-braking feel when lifting off, and modulating speed through a set curves often does not require transferring to the brake pedal. There are three drive modes, selected via paddles behind the steering wheel, with varying levels of battery power available depending on whether the gas engine is also running, as it is in Sport mode. We again look forward to a full review period when we can better compare the range and performance of the modes with different driving styles.
Seems that theya re still out there inspite of your knowledge! I is hard to be a critic when the knowledge you have isn't yours!!!!!!!! - tomman58Explorer
LindsayRichards wrote:
Fisker is now gone. No workers in USA and Norway is stopping. Too many fires in the battery. Justin Beiber (teen heartthrob) has one, but the taxpayers lost nearly half a BILLION dollars on this waste. I wish we would spend the money on research rather than on things doomed to fail. That is where success comes from.
Think I'll still drive one . Inspite of your rant! - cekkkExplorer"...wish we would spend the money on research..." Research has no campaign conributing lobbyist! :B
- LindsayRichardsExplorerFisker is now gone. No workers in USA and Norway is stopping. Too many fires in the battery. Justin Beiber (teen heartthrob) has one, but the taxpayers lost nearly half a BILLION dollars on this waste. I wish we would spend the money on research rather than on things doomed to fail. That is where success comes from.
- tomman58ExplorerA Fisker dealership opened near my house. This car is $100,000 and I don't know if it gets the rebate LOl. 420hp 0-60 in 5.9 or 7.9 depending who you talk to. I might like to take it for a spin but don't think its 50 miles range (driving like a human not a Redneck on Saturday night) will make me want to cash in my Volt (8.9 seconds 0-60)LOL.
I had to take the Dmax to the store to trade in the pop bottles today they would've filled the Volt!
I do have some macho moments driving the Dmax and thinking of hook'n up and heading North for a few days in the ol' UP. Diesel up their is normally 30 cents higher than down here. After a few days north I can come home pay 4 bucks and think I got a deal,LOL - cekkkExplorer"1st the the EPA is a safeguard against business' that would ruin our land,water and air in the name of profits. So it does not apply."
And, the World is Flat! :S
Decades ago I was questioning a friend of mine, a psychiatrist, about how one could help a person with psychiatric problems. He spoke for a few minutes, don't remember much he said. But it ended with, as best I recall, "If you think you're George Washington, I probably can't help." Don't know why your response conjured up that old memory, but thank you. I hadn't thought of my late friend for years.
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