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- cekkkExplorerPrices are up slightly. Went to town today. Diesel no longer cheaper than gas. Gas 3.519, diesel, 3.599.
- Greydog_1ExplorerYou already forgot prices of .85cents, 1.25 - 2.00 3.00. Add another one. You can forget 3.50 gas with upcoming 4.00 marker soon at you local gas station. We best be thinking soon about fuel choices, we are getting robbed at the pump without a gun.
cekkk wrote:
I'm not a fan of oil. If NG could cut off OPEC at the knees, I'm for it. But this blind anti-fossil rhetoric is severely hurting the country.
NG can. You can participate today with an NG vehicle or EV powered by NG electricity.- AO_hitechExplorer
cekkk wrote:
Without lobbying firms to go to, we'd have hundreds of unemployed former congressmen. Would you want to be responsible for their plight?
I'm willing to risk it! :D - BumpyroadExplorer$3.19 in SC yesterday. from VA to TX ran about 3.19, 3.39 for the most part.
bumpy - SRTExplorerTo keep on topic, the local gas stations are climbing on the $3.69 a gallon band wagon. So locally we have gone from a low of $3.33 to $3.69 in several weeks. Another hit to those that must commute using their vehicles. At the beginning of June we were paying close to $4.00 a gallon. Then prices dropped to the $3.33 low in July. Now prices are ramping up towards $4.00 again. People are holding on to their money and not spending it at the local restaurants and stores.
- LindsayRichardsExplorerOil companies pay a much greater % of their net than the average Fortune 500 companies, Citizens Untied only leveled the playing field and allowed companies to have the same freedom enjoyed by the unions for decades. I would love to see all union and corporate donations disallowed and only personal contributions with a personal limit in the few thousand dollar range. Complaining only about part of the money in politics is disingenuous. In the end, the consumer ends up paying for all political contributions one way or the other.
- cekkkExplorerThe oil and gas industries do not get subsidies, period. They take allowable deductions on their tax forms, just as all companies and most families do. It's their/our money to begin with. It wasn't given to us. Allowing people and companies to keep their earning is, cover your eyes, NOT A SUBSIDY!
Wind and solar sectors, on the other hand, take in $12.5 billion annually in direct subsidies. Once, this may have been justified on the grounds they needed that help to compete. But now it's clear. They don't work, they don't produce jobs on their own, they won't produce jobs on their own, and they have produced little if any innovation.
What's the level of investment in a megawatt of production? How about 64 cents for fossil versus over $50 for wind! Oh, yeah. Solar. Recently about $775?
I'm not a fan of oil. If NG could cut off OPEC at the knees, I'm for it. But this blind anti-fossil rhetoric is severely hurting the country. - LindsayRichardsExplorerAlternatives have a 70 to 1 advantage over fossil fuels for subsidies in electrical generation. Making fossil fuels is not the answer. We need to make alternatives cheaper, not make fossil fuels more expensive. Research is needed. Building demonstration projects with political cronies is not the answer. Giving taxpayer subsidized, half off leases for vehicles people won't actually buy, isn't the answer either.
- cekkkExplorerFezziwig, interestingly, Henry Ford's early Model Ts were carbureted for ethanol, with gas optional. I have no objection to the private development of solar and wind, but both have had a lot of help at my expense and show no signs of economical commercial application in the foreseeable future. Electric power sounds like it is useful as a commuter vehicle, but, again, don't make me pay for its development.
I'm not sure why there is interest in it, considering its limited usefulness, its reliance on gasoline backup in many of them, and the fact the electricity has to be produced primarily from other fossil fuels. But apparently the Kool Aid is a powerful aphrodisiac.
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