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Since you invited me, I will opine!I believe that all representatives and congressmen that have served over the past twenty years should be convicted of treason and hung by the neck until dead. This would be for their crimes committed against the united states by creating the energy situation that we are in today.With that being said, we must do a few things to start the ball rolling in the right direction. 1) Repeal all laws restricting drilling in ANWR and off of our coasts.2) Build some refineries. Oil is useless without a way to turn it into fuel.3) Embrace nuclear energy. We made a few bad films about Nuclear that devastated the industry.4) Dump the subsidy and mandate for "food to fuel" programs. Admit it was a bad idea.If we embrace some of these ideas, we may see some relief down the road. If not, we won't.I saw yesterday where the House passed a bill allowing us to sue OPEC. That is simply insanity. If anyone should be sued it should be the idiots in Washington.Ok I'm done. I have to go to work now. ;-)(I need to stop and put $150 worth of gas in my Suburban)Jeff

I don't like high fuel prices !! :M:M:W:WEnd of rant and now lets get back out there and go camping !!Thanks...I feel better now !

And fuel will probably get pricier when Congress passes the CLIMATE CHANGE SECURITY ACT.

One other idea is to repeal the laws that require something like 8 or 9 different gasoline formulations depending on where you live in the U.S.

This from the AP wire a few minutes ago:NEW YORK - Oil prices bolted to a new record above $132 a barrel Wednesday after the government reported that supplies of crude oil and gasoline fell unexpectedly last week. And crude's rise in the futures market again pressured consumers by pulling prices at the pump higher — a gallon of regular gas rose overnight to a new record above $3.80 a gallon. In its weekly inventory report, the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said crude oil inventories fell by more than 5 million barrels. Analysts had expected a modest increase. Gasoline inventories also fell and took the market by surprise.Light, sweet crude for July delivery was up more about $3, rising as high as $132.08 a barrel in late morning trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.At the pump, the average national price of a gallon of regular gas rose 0.7 cent overnight to a record $3.807 a gallon, according to a survey of stations by AAA and the Oil Price Information Service. Prices are 60 cents higher than a year ago, and many forecasters believe they'll hit $4 on a national basis at some point over the next month. Prices are already that high in many parts of the country, and the number of stations charging $4 or more rises each day.Diesel fuel rose 1.9 cents to its own record price of $4.558 a gallon Wednesday. Rising prices of diesel, used to transport most consumer and industrial goods, are sending prices of food and many other goods higher.

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time2roll
Nomad
Oct 25, 2012
LindsayRichards wrote:
You forgot the free air that the power companies use to generate the electricity to fuel up the electric cars when the burn fossil fuels. Just exchanging the smoke stack for the tail pipe and losing a lot of efficiency in-between.

I understand even a coal fired plant distributing electric to a vehicle will have lower emissions and higher efficiency than an equivelent gasoline powered vehicle. And it goes up from there as not all power comes from coal.
LindsayRichards
Explorer
Oct 25, 2012
You forgot the free air that the power companies use to generate the electricity to fuel up the electric cars when the burn fossil fuels. Just exchanging the smoke stack for the tail pipe and losing a lot of efficiency in-between.
LindsayRichards
Explorer
Oct 25, 2012
Actually there is no such thing as a "free charge". It fit into that free lunch thing. The power received does cost just as much as if you did it at home, it is just paid for by others. In this case by the other rate payers through higher electricity rates at their homes. It is kind of like the free cheese, the dairy gets paid for it by the government and they just give it away to the needy. It is "free" only to the needy, society still has to pay for it. Usually those getting the "free" cheese don't really advertise it as they are embarrassed.
tomman58
Explorer
Oct 25, 2012
Where I park downtown (to get a free charge) the spots have a lot of DTE (our power company) cars parked also. Some of the cars are Volts and an occasional off brand. Yesterday I noticed a Ford pick up and a Dodge pickup plugged in. I happened upon an Edison guy who was taking out the Dodge and he said they were "commissioned " to test the two pickup with the electric.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting. One thing with a pickup there would be places to stick in a battery pack.

I wonder just how many people pay the "cash" price as opposed to charging their fuel?
AO_hitech
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
Well, since the notice was sent to 2013 Volt owners that probably explains it best. :S
LindsayRichards
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
My car is a 2012 so that is why I wasn't told.

Probably sent the notice to the lessor who owns your car. GM doesn't know about you.
tomman58
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
cekkk wrote:
tomman58 wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I see the volt has a new recall. evidently it just stops for an unknown reason.
bumpy

Can't seem to find it Bumpy. There is a Honda recall for that I believe.

Customer Satisfaction Issue

Seems it has something to do with the delayed carging app. You have options with the Volt for charging, I always charge at home after 9 pm and anytime on weekends for the cheaper rate.

My car is a 2012 so that is why I wasn't told.
tomman58
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
cekkk wrote:
tomman58 wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I see the volt has a new recall. evidently it just stops for an unknown reason.
bumpy

Can't seem to find it Bumpy. There is a Honda recall for that I believe.

Customer Satisfaction Issue

Mine is a 2012 so that's why I wasn't told.
Bumpyroad
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
tomman58 wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I see the volt has a new recall. evidently it just stops for an unknown reason.
bumpy

Can't seem to find it Bumpy. There is a Honda recall for that I believe.

My BAD. not a recall, is a customer satisfaction issue. yes, I would be dissatisfied if my $40,000 vehicle just mysteriously stopped on me. :s
bumpy
cekkk
Explorer
Oct 24, 2012
tomman58 wrote:
Bumpyroad wrote:
I see the volt has a new recall. evidently it just stops for an unknown reason.
bumpy

Can't seem to find it Bumpy. There is a Honda recall for that I believe.

Customer Satisfaction Issue

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