Forum Discussion
Grit dog wrote:
HighwayPilot wrote:
If you read the ordinance "8.10.010 it states no camping" but if you continue below it also reads...."8.10.020 Storage of personal property in public area"."It shall be unlawful for any person to store personal property including camp paraphernalia..." Looks like you cannot even store ie: keep any item that could be used for camping as defined by there own definition of "camping paraphernalia" at all in any vehicle. while on "Any park, any street or any publicly owned parking lot...." What are the residents and travelers to do? I called the Lacey police, city attorneys office and both have no clear answer to the specificity of this ordinance. Whats scary is that it gives each individual law enforcement officer sole discretion as to how to interpret this ordinance. Has anyone ever heard of Predetermined disposition?, or even having a "Bad Day"? "generally means an outcome determined ahead of time." What about when you travel in your RV (of any type) to visit family and you happen to find your self on their streets, park or publicly owned parking lot you could be charged with a violation because you are "Camping" ie: occupying a camp facility (inside your vehicle ) with camp paraphernalia". ie: (pillows, blanket, cooking facilities or equipment) and god help you if you have" Stored" in your bays or trunk any persona items and/or camp paraphernalia. Depending on the officer's mood or predetermined disposition you can be in violation of Ordinance 1549 of the City of Lacey, Wa. This Ordinance needs to be specific!
LOFL at this post. Do you actually not understand the intention of this new regulation or are you being intentionally overly literal?
Please tell us you didn't wast the time of the City employees and law enforcement on the opposite side of the country asking inane question about something that doesn't affect or concern you.....
Washington State along with many other states and cities across the US are trying to keep the homeless quacks from setting up camp. Charleston SC had over 500 camped under I-26. These people are offered help, they refuse and they panhandle. Offer them shelter, they only accept when it’s cold. Offer them a job and they refuse. What’s also bad, some of these “Bums” are receiving SSI and others MIlitary retirement. I think it’s great to run these jerks away from public areas since they don’t want help.- Man I must be getting old... had to google LOFL :)
Dave HighwayPilot wrote:
If you read the ordinance "8.10.010 it states no camping" but if you continue below it also reads...."8.10.020 Storage of personal property in public area"."It shall be unlawful for any person to store personal property including camp paraphernalia..." Looks like you cannot even store ie: keep any item that could be used for camping as defined by there own definition of "camping paraphernalia" at all in any vehicle. while on "Any park, any street or any publicly owned parking lot...." What are the residents and travelers to do? I called the Lacey police, city attorneys office and both have no clear answer to the specificity of this ordinance. Whats scary is that it gives each individual law enforcement officer sole discretion as to how to interpret this ordinance. Has anyone ever heard of Predetermined disposition?, or even having a "Bad Day"? "generally means an outcome determined ahead of time." What about when you travel in your RV (of any type) to visit family and you happen to find your self on their streets, park or publicly owned parking lot you could be charged with a violation because you are "Camping" ie: occupying a camp facility (inside your vehicle ) with camp paraphernalia". ie: (pillows, blanket, cooking facilities or equipment) and god help you if you have" Stored" in your bays or trunk any persona items and/or camp paraphernalia. Depending on the officer's mood or predetermined disposition you can be in violation of Ordinance 1549 of the City of Lacey, Wa. This Ordinance needs to be specific!
LOFL at this post. Do you actually not understand the intention of this new regulation or are you being intentionally overly literal?
Please tell us you didn't wast the time of the City employees and law enforcement on the opposite side of the country asking inane question about something that doesn't affect or concern you.....- I read the law, and totally agree with it. Have no issues as written.
Several folks, including Mr youtube guy sure take it to a ridiculous level of interpretation.
Highway pilot - the ordinance says store in a public place. Your car's trunk, or your RV, or the back seat of your car is not a public place. Good grief.. get ahold of yourself, and don't contribute to the conspiracy.
I don't think you really called the Lacey police or city attorney.
Mike - Did any of you notice Eric was having a really hard time not busting out laughing while he was trying to look sad he was leaving WA. Those weren't tears about to flood the screen they were giggles.
At first I thought it was for real but come on. Even those backwoods folks in WA. are better than that.
Of course you can believe what you want, this is just my opinion and that and Five Bucks will buy you a coffee at The State's Official Coffee Temple. - Now you’re venturing out onto the same thin ice as the misinformed guy in the OP’s YouTube video.
“Store” is a defined term in the ordinance. A person travelling in an RV would extremely unlikely to do anything that would qualify as ‘storing’ their belongings illegally.
Ditto with “camp”, “camp facilities” or “camp paraphernalia”.
The sky is NOT falling. - No Bueno
- well shoot...If I was a homeless person I would camp there come the cold weather and let them jail me for 3 months...get a nice warm cell and 3 meals a day!
free radical wrote:
Of strange laws
https://youtu.be/IbyetN5_XTw
The only strange part about this is the person who posted it.
Lacey WA is mostly a sht hole and not unlike the rest of the sanctuary city type places in Western WA, is probably getting overrun with homeless "campers."
Heck, we live basically in the foothills of the Cascades. Hour from downtown Seattle and half hour form Tacoma and the homeless campers are pushing out into pullouts in our neck of the woods even.
Nothing about that law says you can't camp in Lacey in your RV, it says you can't pull up behind the 99cent per scoop Chinese restaurant off I 5 and set up camp though!
Plus I can't understand why anyone would want to camp there. It would be like camping in a less dangerous version of Compton.- Once again, as Abraham Lincoln once said, you can't believe everything you read on the internet.
