Some Iowa MH owners facing big tax problems.

Rbertalotto wrote:
If the taxes were reasonable, and not 5%, most folks wouldn't care.

wow 5%????
I wish we only paid 5%
try 13% here on top of aprox 6 dozen other taxes open and hidden, including taxes taxed on taxes,,,,, yes we have em, gas tax with HST tax charged on top of those taxes, so we get taxed for being taxed


if $100 changes hands with 4 average people by time it leaves the fourth set of hands our government has aprox 85 of that 100.

come on up and become a Canadian, and feel the equivelent of a 4x4 fence post giving you a rectal probing every day as you hand over about 60 to 70% of your income to our elected criminals, to spend as they see fit. like a kid in a candy store.

Bigrick wrote:
I seem to remember a certain Secretary of State (and former Massachusetts senator) who registered his yacht in Rhode Island to avoid taxes. Everybody was up in arms, including me. If you don't like your state's laws, move. Or elect people who will change the laws to your liking.

let's be fair. IIRC he actually moored his yacht there and was able to legally register/tax it there so he was not breaking any laws.
the same as Iowan's who leave there RV out of state for all but 90 days, etc.,etc.etc.
bumpy

mich800 wrote:

2oldman wrote:
Maybe the MT LLC is technically only legal in MT.

A MT LLC is legal in all states. You may need to register to do business in the other states you conduct business in.

True.
A limited Liability Company.

And as the name implies - a "Company" - as in "business"..:W

Sooooo some states either:
1. (As noted) Expect the LLC to register as a "resident" in the state.
2. See you and your MH as a commercial enterprise (business), subject to commercial requirements - as any other commercial vehicle.

Either one defeats the desired intent of the LLC for a MH.

Still works in some states, but the number is rapidly dwindling.

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bka0721 wrote:


Years ago, when I was doing the State's enforcement, we purposely looked for high end vehicles, with Oregon plates.

That was back in the bad old days...

As a native Oregonian I'm proud to be able to report that beginning in the early "oughts", (no sales tax) Oregon has very vigorously put a stop to out-of-Staters registering their vehicles without being legal residents of the State. And there are actually prosecutions of people doing the kind of "business" so openly practiced/encouraged in Montana. At least one person has been sentenced and fined for arranging these phony registrations. Link

All enforcement/prosecutions were/are done entirely at Oregon's expense, and ONLY because of that State's position that it won't be a party to what amounts to the theft of monies rightfully belonging to other States.

Who knew that a whole State could behave so honorably? :)

2oldman wrote:
Maybe the MT LLC is technically only legal in MT.

A MT LLC is legal in all states. You may need to register to do business in the other states you conduct business in.

MA recently launched a similar push. I'm guessing we'll see more and more of this in the months/years ahead.

hershey wrote:
Desmoines Register Article
Registering your MH out of state is not an option anymore.

It's still an option..:S
owners just have to keep it out-of-state 9 months of the year.

Added bonus - no need to pay a MT LLC for something you can do yourself, at a much lower cost.

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As Big Al found out - Tax Evasion is illegal..:(
However, Tax *avoidance* is legal...:)
(Even presidential candidates know that, LOL!)

BTW - pay attn Kalifornia bashers:
CA has done just the opposite for it's residents for years - the CA "90 Day Rule" (which is now one year).
Take delivery of your RV out-of-state, keep (and use) it out of state for one year.....and it may then be *legally* registered (and kept) in CA w/o paying sales tax.
Purchasing used - same thing applies, sale must be completed out-of-state.

In CA, with the sales tax close to 10%, the benefit is obvious!
And, yes CA CHP went after MT LLC registered RVs also.
If the driver had a MT DL = no problem. If not........:(

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Apparently tax evasion....Kind of like Capone, only Alcatraz is closed.

Maybe the MT LLC is technically only legal in MT.

Serves them right, those that skirt the rules in a way that a normal Iowan is unable to. When a person enters an agreement to avoid a tax, others will and do pay, they deserve to be held accountable.

When I went out on the road, I sold all my property and registered my vehicles where I chose to. I didn't go to a tax free state, I could have, but I didn't. I also am not in my originating state more than 30 days, in a calendar year.

Years ago, when I was doing the State's enforcement, we purposely looked for high end vehicles, with Oregon plates. It was not hard to find a reason to pull people over and check out the vehicle, ask questions when they provided in state DLs and Insurance. As is other residency requirements to register their vehicles, SUVs, Sports Cars once moving to a state. If you are there visiting, fine. If you are military, fine. If you are enrolled in an accredited College/University carrying a full time load (12 credit hours a semester) fine. If you give your kid a car and keep it registered in your home state and they are in another, busted, as the vehicle is now in that state, does not matter who owns it, it must be registered in that state.

If I am not mistaken, there are a few states cracking down on large MH with LLC and requiring them to enter and exit the state as Commercial Vehicles and be assessed with the appropriate fees and permits.

So, if you go this route in registering your MH/RV vehicle, or expensive motor vehicles, rest assured there are people out there, your neighbours, mechanics reporting you to the DOT/DMV. Some states provide a reward for doing this. It is not just an Iowa issue, other states are already doing it. If you are not doing it, don't even worry a minute about it.