Taking Personal Responsibility to new lows.

WTP-GC wrote:

4x4van wrote:

WTP-GC wrote:

First off in the "responsibility" category, why do you feel as if the reviewer owes anyone an explanation for being on the hill. Sounds to me like it was a part of their site. An attitude like this is just as bad as the one you're complaining about.

Secondly, where did it say that the hill was off limits and/or why imply that there was a sign to warn this person (or anyone else) about the danger of being on said hill? Its not like they stated that jumped over the fence, ignored the warning signs, and went on an authorized hike.

Please tell me this is a joke, right? The whole point is that the reviewer was camping. Outdoors, there are things...like rocks, hills, trees, roots, leaves, bugs, animals...a lack of signs warning of the dangers? Seriously? There shouldn't need to be signs everywhere. We have an entire generation (2, actually) that cannot take ANY responsibility for their actions

You can cherry-pick all you want, but the OP on this thread felt as if the reviewer owes an explanation for being on a hill (ie, their campsite). The OP also implied that there were warning signs which were ignored. Note that I didn't condone the review and found it to be very petty, so take your hostility elsewhere. And we don't have an "entire" generation of people who cannot take responsibility for their actions. That's stereotypically false. There have always been these people. I talked to 2 separate people in their 60's a while back who about a dying tree in their backyard. It was a large oak tree and the homeowner felt as if the previous owner should have been responsible for removal of the tree prior to selling the home. The other person was right there agreeing all along. There's a large contingent of people who grew up in the 1960's that can't rub two neurons together long enough to even spell "responsibility".

But since we're on the topic and playing devil's advocate, what if the reviewer broke their ankle because they slipped and fell on a slippery ramp, or a mess left in the bathhouse, or a faulty set of steps. Would their review not be more palatable now?? They would have injured themselves because the campground management/ownership failed to maintain a facility free of hazards. Is the back lawn of a campsite not also part of the campground facilities??

Alas, that's what insurance is for.

:Yes, if the injury was the fault of actual negligence, a low review is warranted.
As for a hazard free environment, I don't believe it is possible. What should the park do? Level all hills? Remove all trees? I have never walked in high heels, but I would bet that it would be tough to walk across a completely flat lawn since the heels would likely puncture the sod, so should all parks eliminate grass because there is the possibility of an idiot, or would a series of signs warning of the dangers of high heels on sod suffice?
When I questioned why they were there in the first place, a hill, apparently steep, behind an RV would seem to be an area no one needs to traverse. I never intended to imply there was warning signs present or necessary. Obviously there are roads and there was no mention the actual site, side yard or hookup area was sloped. There was no reason apparent as to why they were on the hillside in the first place. Sometimes, it is just plain obvious areas are hazardous and shouldn't be entered. If the OP had replaced hill and leaves with a river and they had broken their ankle of a slick rock in the riverbed , is it still the park's fault or should people know that riverbeds can be slick, just like they should know hillsides can be dangerous? I don't believe any business has the obligation to mitigate all naturally occurring features.
As for this instance being what insurance is for, you need to be aware of several things. My deductible is pretty industry standard and is $5000.00. Also, with a claim my premiums are likely to rise and correspondingly, rise across the industry should claims like these be common. Those costs are going to be passed on to you, the RVer in higher camping fees. In the long term people not taking personal responsibility costs all of us money.