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- fj12ryderExplorer III"BTW, my wife and I have no Medicare cards." Not old enough yet? If old enough, how do you use Medicare if you have no card?
- Tom_NExplorer
2gypsies wrote:
If you travel an Advantage Plan might make it difficult to find a doctor. For travelers, a PPO plan is best.
There are PPO plans listed under Part C Advantage plans.
BTW, my wife and I have no Medicare cards. - 2gypsies1Explorer IIIIf you travel an Advantage Plan might make it difficult to find a doctor. For travelers, a PPO plan is best.
- fj12ryderExplorer III
Tom N wrote:
Actually that's the way they all work. The insurance companies get their premiums from your medicare coverage. That's why if you choose certain supplements, you pay nothing out of pocket unless you have to have medical attention. Works great as long as you're healthy, and stay healthy. :)
My wife and I secure our 65+ health care coverage a little differently.
We have an ADVANTAGE PLAN. That is part C in your medicare booklet.
We contract with Highmark BlueCross/Blue Shield for our coverage and the government pays Highmark for our plan. Our plan also includes drug coverage. In 2015 the cost to Highmark was LESS than the governments reimbursement by $6. SO WE EACH RECEIVE $6 MORE A MONTH IN OUR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT! I have friends that also have the same plan. Works great and is very cost effective. - Tom_NExplorerMy wife and I secure our 65+ health care coverage a little differently.
We have an ADVANTAGE PLAN. That is part C in your medicare booklet.
We contract with Highmark BlueCross/Blue Shield for our coverage and the government pays Highmark for our plan. Our plan also includes drug coverage. In 2015 the cost to Highmark was LESS than the governments reimbursement by $6. SO WE EACH RECEIVE $6 MORE A MONTH IN OUR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT! I have friends that also have the same plan. Works great and is very cost effective. - fj12ryderExplorer IIIExcellent post Tatest. The only thing I would take exception to is about having no supplement at all. The way it was explained to us was that if you didn't start a supplement plan at age 65, then when you did start one it would cost more based on the amount of time since you had turned 65. I could be totally wrong on this and the guy I talked to could have been full of baloney, or I misunderstood what he told me.
If I'm wrong I accept full responsibility for it. No excuses. :) - tatestExplorer IIWhat is cost effective depends on how you have to use it.
If you have no medical needs, the most cost effective plan is no supplement at all. That way you waste no money on premiums.
The most comprehensive supplement is a Plan F, but it also has the highest premiums, and if it pays nothing to you, this is not cost effective.
Several Part B supplements in between "nothing" and F, not all companies offer all of them, premiums for supplements are the same statewide for each state, doesn't matter whether you are in Houston or Kermit.
If you are asking about HMOs or Medicare Advantage, that's something else. Those are alternatives to Part B or Parts B and D, and many are zero premium, but each are different as to what they will do for you. You have to shop those based on your needs, and if an RVer, one of those needs might be travel.
I chose a Plan N from AARP/UHC because it is national coverage and my retirement plan pays part of the premium if I buy a supplement from that company (but not anything for HMO or Advantage, nothing toward Part D). In the five years I've been on the plan, I've paid more in premiums than I received in benefits. Most years nothing. For Part D, never.
That's not cost effective effective, but I've also paid about $15,000 to $20,000 in car insurance premiums since last making a claim, at least $50,000 in homeowners without ever making a claim, and who knows what on life insurance and I'm still alive. Whatever I paid for life on my wife, it all expired on basis of age four months before she died.
My idea of the way to shop for insurance is to figure out how much of the risk I can afford to carry myself, and try to insure the rest. Premiums are based on risk to the insurer, the more they take care of, the more the policy costs. What I can carry on medical costs, and where I want coverage (i.e. includes outside the U.S.) means I use Supplement N, not Supplement F. What I can carry on automotive and home losses means I have deductibles at $1000 to $5000 on the vehicles, 10% on the homes, so as to reduce my premiums.
What works for me may not work for you. If you want no out of pocket costs, you will pay the highest premiums, whether or not you ever make claims, or in this case, need medical services.
For Medicare Part B Supplemental insurance, the plans are all defined by the Federal Government. You pick the plan that fits your need to balance risks with premium costs. You find one of the carriers that offers it. If you plan to travel, you want to pick a carrier with nationwide provider networks and a reputation for good service, not one that offers the plan only for Houston for $5-10 a month less.
If you don't understand how this works, you need to get a current "Medicare & You" and study it, because when you first come into the program there will be hundreds of salespeople out there, each with his own pig in a poke. Each of them telling you that you could be paying less, or pay nothing at all (actually, they take the money that would give you Medicare coverage and you are covered by them and not by Medicare). Once you choose something it dwindles down to about three phone calls a day and five mailings a week, looking for your Medicare or Medicare Supplement dollar. - fj12ryderExplorer IIIPlan "F" isn't much different from Plan "E" and some companies don't offer Plan "F". I think about the only difference is Plan "F" covers the deductible.
- Dandy_DanExplorer
pnichols wrote:
We use AARP supplemental health insurance (underwritten by United Health Care).
It's recognized, trusted, and understood by every provider everywhere in the U.S.. We went with it because we didn't want any hassles on RV trips regardless of where we were.
We have this in Ohio. The best plan is "Plan F". So far we have had nothing out of pocket for doctor or hospital. Good Luck in your picks. We have had UHC for 2 years.
Reference premium. I retired with a disability from Ohio Police and Fire and the premium for my wife and I is around $150/mo not including scripts. - pnicholsExplorer IIWe use AARP supplemental health insurance (underwritten by United Health Care).
It's recognized, trusted, and understood by every provider everywhere in the U.S.. We went with it because we didn't want any hassles on RV trips regardless of where we were.
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