The camping industry is going to be hit hard

It's satisfying and probably healthy to put forth our opinions of the virus and economy. Also important to realize that there may not be even one person on the forum who is qualified to have an informed opinion. This is all above our pay grade and beyond the personal expertise of the politicians who make the decisions. We just have to hope they accept that and choose their advisors wisely. We'll see....

Lantley wrote:
What we don't want is death.

So far the "solution" does nothing to stop death. At best we are delaying it for a short time.

A vaccine is likely 2yrs out...if we wait that long, the world economy won't be coming back...if we open up, cases will go back up.

Sweden is taking a logical approach. Asking elderly and at-risk groups to isolate but the young and healthy, who have little risk, can go about their lives. Yes, there will be more cases initially but as the population develops immunity, the epidemic ends.

We should be opening up low risk work as soon as possible to minimize the impact to the economy while protecting the vulnerable.

Realistically we will hit a point where people will simply ignore the govt rules if they are unreasonable. A fundamental concept of law is it requires the vast majority to abide by it voluntarily...the mood is fast shifting as they aren't coming up with a long term solution.

Things are running a little differently during this crisis, so it makes it harder to predict. Here in Michigan, the current restrictions are scheduled to end at the end of the month. I do not believe the legislature will allow it to go longer than that. The governor already has over 80,000 signatures on a petition to have here recalled, but she seems to be playing up to Biden for a VP bid. And on it goes!

dodge guy wrote:
If things start opening May 1st the economy will recover slowly. If we stay closed for 2 more months (like some want us to do) the. Things will go bad quick. The economy can barely handle the 4 weeks we have now. Another 8 will kill it off quickly.

We need to get back to operation fast. We will survive this as has been proven time and again in the past couple months. Some people just aren’t being reasonable or using common sense when they start talking about keeping things closed for a couple more months or more. There are a few states that are already planning on going bankrupt!

My take in it! You have to explain it to people like you would a child, and this is not easy to do but it needs to be said.
“People get sick and sometimes people die”
this is nature and no amount of closing businesses is going to stop it. The virus will spread until “it”decides to stop spreading! If humans think they can control nature they are wrong and there is plenty of history that proves that! Yes we can slow it, but that all we are doing is prolonging the inevitable. It will run its course and will stop and we will have a vaccine by this time next year. And even then with a. Vaccine people will still die from it!

The economy will come back it always has. It has never been artificially shut down like this before. To think it will slowly restart with all the penned up demand is misguided.
While there is plenty of financial hardship to go around not everyone is being harmed. Many are just waiting it out.
What we don't want is death. No one has come back from death except one person and he could walk on water. The rest remained dead.
We need to accept that while maybe there could have been better preparation this pandemic is bigger than mankind. It is a huge NATURAL disaster that is going to cause havoc on all of us.
Our focus needs to be to keep this virus from taking lives.
Instead we are worried about things like. "When can I camp again",or "We are leaving debt for my grandchildren".
Money and camping dates can be replaced lives cannot.
I agree many will die. WE can't protect everybody but we can protect as many as possible.
But if your feeling lucky lets force the economy open based on a comfort date like May 1st. Sounds good nice and comfortable.
But if adequate testing is not available we will just create a bigger mess and shut down all over again

I'm still trying to figure out how so many people will be destitute after this. Unemployment will pay many more than they are making now. They will get the state's unemployment amount plus $600 federal money. And they will sit at home and smile instead of taking one of the many jobs available right now. Heck, why take a pay cut to go to work?
Yes, I understand the small business OWNERS can't collect unemployment. The Government is working on that.

As for the RV Industry, the current inventory is in place and not dwindling. And nobody is currently making new units. So when parts of the country start opening up the inventory will start reducing. If the RV manufacturers are smart they will hold off on opening up their factories until the old inventory starts to drop. Then they will have a surge of orders to get them through the winter.

Link please. Why would anyone buy stock only to lose 30% shortly after?


https://www.salon.com/2020/04/08/gop-senator-bought-stock-in-company-that-makes-medical-gear-after-non-public-briefing-on-coronavirus/

shelbyfv wrote:
I think I read it can live quite awhile on the soles of your shoes. Someone harks up a gob and you step on it at the gas station.... I've been leaving my shoes in the garage.

But......consider this......
If you don't lick your shoes, you'll be fine!
Do you put them in the trunk when you get into your car?

JimK-NY wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
If things start opening May 1st .......

You cannot be seriously expecting "things" to start opening by May 1 of this year.

There are no options to slow the deaths and impact on healthcare except the shutdowns and social distancing. The medical experts will be clear about that. The politicians are not going to risk having the epidemic flare up with tens of thousands of deaths.

Unless, of course, the “things” are in places that have not flared up and have impacted healthcare only because of all of the cancelled routine care.

The medical experts should provide data but should not be the only ones making the decisions.

It also should not be a one size fits all solution.

dodge guy wrote:
If things start opening May 1st .......

You cannot be seriously expecting "things" to start opening by May 1 of this year.

There are no options to slow the deaths and impact on healthcare except the shutdowns and social distancing. The medical experts will be clear about that. The politicians are not going to risk having the epidemic flare up with tens of thousands of deaths.

If things start opening May 1st the economy will recover slowly. If we stay closed for 2 more months (like some want us to do) the. Things will go bad quick. The economy can barely handle the 4 weeks we have now. Another 8 will kill it off quickly.

We need to get back to operation fast. We will survive this as has been proven time and again in the past couple months. Some people just aren’t being reasonable or using common sense when they start talking about keeping things closed for a couple more months or more. There are a few states that are already planning on going bankrupt!

My take in it! You have to explain it to people like you would a child, and this is not easy to do but it needs to be said.
“People get sick and sometimes people die”
this is nature and no amount of closing businesses is going to stop it. The virus will spread until “it”decides to stop spreading! If humans think they can control nature they are wrong and there is plenty of history that proves that! Yes we can slow it, but that all we are doing is prolonging the inevitable. It will run its course and will stop and we will have a vaccine by this time next year. And even then with a. Vaccine people will still die from it!