Towing doubles

I'm from Utah.
I'm a few feet over the Utah limit of 65'.
I call the Utah DMV, they told me you can buy an over length permit that allows 75' for I think $97. That is for Utah only and lasts a year then they get another $97.
Give the DMV a call.

https://springfield.craigslist.org/rvs/d/swivel-wheel-platform/6589369121.html

azrving wrote:


What is your total length? The police on here can't gotcha. Lol

87 front bumper to prop.

transamz9 wrote:

azrving wrote:
I have always been under 65 ft so I have not inquired of a permit. I travel too far to many states to bother with all that. I have met two different people that are over and they just do it and said they don't worry about it.

One was pulling a Jeep behind about a 37-foot fifth wheel and the other was pulling a small trailer with a side by side behind a fifth wheel about the same size. I think they were both about seven feet over.

I'm running a short bed crew cab, 30 foot FW, 14-foot tandem-axle utility trailer and I'm a few inches under 65.

At first I had a 12 foot single axle trailer which was 2990 lb gross so it did not require brakes. I now have a 14 foot tandem axle with brakes on the rear axle. When going to this new trailer and pulling just it behind my 2014 Ram I discovered how poorly the truck brake controller was doing. It gets into a whole issue with late model Ram trucks. I install The Prodigy 3 with heavier gauge wiring from that controller to the back of the truck. I haven't double towed with it yet but the voltages I'm seeing back there are far better than they were. The Prodigy can power 4 axles.

I'll be double towing next week and see how it works. I may install another brake axle on the utility trailer if needed but just getting the proper voltage back there should make a big difference.

Sounds like you would be about 72 to 74 ft depending on truck. Some may suggest an Idaho tote but It also sounds like too much for a 3/4 ton. You are probably maxed out or over now aren't you?

I pull a boat that is just shy of 30 on trailer behind a 42' long from cap to boat hitch 5er behind a Mega Cab.

What is your total length? The police on here can't gotcha. Lol

azrving wrote:
I have always been under 65 ft so I have not inquired of a permit. I travel too far to many states to bother with all that. I have met two different people that are over and they just do it and said they don't worry about it.

One was pulling a Jeep behind about a 37-foot fifth wheel and the other was pulling a small trailer with a side by side behind a fifth wheel about the same size. I think they were both about seven feet over.

I'm running a short bed crew cab, 30 foot FW, 14-foot tandem-axle utility trailer and I'm a few inches under 65.

At first I had a 12 foot single axle trailer which was 2990 lb gross so it did not require brakes. I now have a 14 foot tandem axle with brakes on the rear axle. When going to this new trailer and pulling just it behind my 2014 Ram I discovered how poorly the truck brake controller was doing. It gets into a whole issue with late model Ram trucks. I install The Prodigy 3 with heavier gauge wiring from that controller to the back of the truck. I haven't double towed with it yet but the voltages I'm seeing back there are far better than they were. The Prodigy can power 4 axles.

I'll be double towing next week and see how it works. I may install another brake axle on the utility trailer if needed but just getting the proper voltage back there should make a big difference.

Sounds like you would be about 72 to 74 ft depending on truck. Some may suggest an Idaho tote but It also sounds like too much for a 3/4 ton. You are probably maxed out or over now aren't you?

I pull a boat that is just shy of 30 on trailer behind a 42' long from cap to boat hitch 5er behind a Mega Cab.

Okay, what's the point of the link? If you're referring to the "cargo extension", then you'll have to check on the definition, because anything I could find that was defined as a "cargo extension" had no wheels, it was just attached to the rear of a vehicle. And that could easily be what the WA DOT is referring to since they make no mention of a trailer having to have wheels. You'll have to ask them.

mkirsch wrote:
Permits for overlength are not permanent, to the best of my knowledge, and are not reciprocal. They're a one-time use thing, and you need to file for one in every state you'd travel through.

This is the correct answer. Not only are permits only good for defined periods, you have to get them at the port of entry for each state, and the DO NOT TRANSFER to other states.

The other factor is most states will not issue over-length permits for a "divisible combination". I.e. if you can unhitch, you have to unhitch. Otherwise every trucking company would just keep on running triple trailers everywhere. That said, it appears Idaho at least will issue over-length permits with few restrictions.

Bedlam wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

Bedlam wrote:
...This would also let you travel to locations where towing doubles is not allowed.

Not necessarily, the Idaho Tote is still considered a trailer in some states. Some states consider anything added after the trailer is manufactured as a trailer. Their website says their legal, but they are in the business of building and selling their product, not worrying about your legal issues.

When I was looking in 2011, I did not find a problem using one of these wheeled extensions on a trailer or fifth wheel. The fact that it swings with the trailer and does not have another horizontal pivot put it outside of the trailer classification. Overall length rules still apply for your vehicle combination which might make adding on to a long trailer still illegal.

I almost bought one these to add to my toy hauler, but the price held me back and I sold the toy hauler instead. If know of states where this is a problem, please throw some links up - I thought it was great design that just overpriced.

It's interesting that the Idaho Tote website no longer says that it is legal in all states. They used to mention that right up front as a selling point, now there isn't anything about it.

Missouri definition of a trailer: "A trailer is a unit attached to and towed by a motorized vehicle designed to carry property and/or passengers. A trailer cannot be motorized or self-operable." It lists three exemptions: cotton trailers, tow dollies, and certain hay trailers.

Okay, now it's your turn: Where did you find a link about this statement: "The fact that it swings with the trailer and does not have another horizontal pivot put it outside of the trailer classification."

I pulled a Smart Trailer behind my Big Sky 35' 5th wheel, and believe me I would have loved to have found anything that said it was not double towing, but I didn't find anything definitive. So I just took my chances, rolled the dice, spun the wheel, etc. I never got stopped or even looked at twice, but it could have happened. I travel through and stayed in several states that don't allow doubles, including Virginia.

Bedlam wrote:
Evidently your experiences with law enforcement has been much more negative than mine - Sorry you have such an expectation.

just hope you don't come across a red neck in a small southern town that had an argument with the spouse and needs one more hit to meet his/her quota for the month.
I asked my neighbor who used to be a police chief and asked her the definition of a full stop at a stop sign. Her response, if there was some question, write the ticket and see what happens in court.
bumpy