Tragedy leads to no camping at Cottonwood, AZ Walmart

OkSixpack: said" When I was a kid, an attractive nuisance would have got my you known what busted if I was attracted to it....but now that would be child abuse instead of parenting. Sorry, I don't buy the term "attractive nuisance" for any age. But we probably won't agree so no use in starting an argument...."

I happen to agree with getting my butt busted for messing with things that are "none of my concern," as my mom used to say.

We won't agree, and as long as respect is maintained, that is perfectly O.K. Actually I appreciate hearing opposite opinions. It makes me evaluate my position.

FYI: "attractive nuisance" is a legal term. I just misused it.

Happy Camping to ya.

We have over-nighted at Walmarts for convenience around populated areas/towns/cities late in the afternoon when too far from other types of RV campgrounds. At Walmarts we try to overnight in the back parking lot area where truckers overnight at. We figure that the truckers won't tolerate much messing around back there when they're trying to get some sleep.

We have also overnighted: Out in the middle of nowhere in deserts, in church parking lots, in a farmer's back yard, in a Port of Entry, in truckstop gas stations, in an public area along a river, in a grassy field next to a Bluegrass concert, in county parks, in state parks, and in all kinds of national areas.

The last place we prefer to camp is in commercial RV campgrounds. We camp in commercial RV campgrounds only as a last "resort". The best commercial RV campground we've ever camped in was a rundown one on an Indian reservation adjoining the badlands, with only one other RV there ... but overall a very pleasant and relaxing situation. We had the run of hundreds of acres next to the campground for walking and exploring in non-Federal badlands, around a couple of ponds, and among beautiful meadows and woods along a river on the reservation.

I wish that far more commercial RV campgrounds offered inexpensive graveled areas where we could over-night drycamp ... say at a $10 per night rate. They could enforce a policy of "one night only" for these kind of spots.

irishtom29 wrote:
It appears this family had at least six people capable of holding down regular jobs. Since they're living communally anyway if they pooled six minimum wage jobs they'd have over $40 an hour coming in, probably enough to get an apartment and live a settled life. That's how Mexican immigrants in Chicago end up owning apartment buildings.

I wonder what happened to the house in Boise, ID they got through Habitat for Humanity.

UPDATE: Arizona police officer shot in melee with Boise family at Wal-Mart expected to be OK

Just read that "on the run" murder suspects from a 1992 murder were arrested at KOA in a neighboring town. They had been living and working there since some time in 2014.

Perhaps the only "safe" place to camp is Camp Driveway...

crudeman wrote:

coolbreeze01 wrote:
Folks talk about overnighting at WM all the time. If sleeping with felons is peaceful, sleep tight.

You really think there's never a felon or two in a campground?

This might be an eye-opener to some of you. Our national parks have felons and crime! Rocky Mtn.Nat'l Park is one of the worst. We've volunteered there so heard all the reports. They're all over our country, not just WalMarts.

Oops..double post.

Dog Folks wrote:
OkSixpackP: I am sorry I misused the words "attractive nuisance."

Further research shows it only applies to children.

"In the law of torts, the attractive nuisance doctrine states that a landowner may be held liable for injuries to children trespassing on the land if the injury is caused by a hazardous object or condition on the land that is likely to attract children who are unable to appreciate the risk posed by the object or condition." Wiki

I make no excuses for the criminals here. They deserved what they got and more.

I agree that an honest person resists such temptations in a perfect world.

When I was a kid, an attractive nuisance would have got my you known what busted if I was attracted to it....but now that would be child abuse instead of parenting. Sorry, I don't buy the term "attractive nuisance" for any age. But we probably won't agree so no use in starting an argument....:)

Unfortunately, we humans are imperfect creatures.

Most scams require a greedy person to be successful.

I still believe that, in their never ending quest for sales, WalMart has gone too far in allowing overnight parking.

(Sorry, my comment got put in the middle......)

Good Points, Ric Flair. BTW, loved watching you perform at the Sportatorium in Dallas. Since I cheered for the bad guy, you were usually on my favorites list.

One man's "vagrant" is another man's "urban outdoorsman"

Here are some of my tips for avoiding trouble while camping at Wally World:

1) Only dump your black tank in the storm drain between the hours of 4:00 and 5:00 AM
2) ABG (always be grillin). A tasty BBQ'd pork chop to a hungry security guard is as good as a bribe in most countries. If that doesn't work, throw in a cold beer.
3) Let them see you shopping. Customers always get preferential treatment. If you have to, go ahead and purchase something. You can always return it before you pull out. Bonus if it's something that you can use while camping, like the grill. It's amazing what wally world will take back, no questions asked!

It appears this family had at least six people capable of holding down regular jobs. Since they're living communally anyway if they pooled six minimum wage jobs they'd have over $40 an hour coming in, probably enough to get an apartment and live a settled life. That's how Mexican immigrants in Chicago end up owning apartment buildings.