What does 10 TRILLION gallons of water even equate to?

Really folks, everyone knows the real threat right now is the beer sitting in your refrigerator. Should you be so insensitive as to open it, you'll release carbon dioxide gas into the air resulting in us all being cooked. Of course prior to that happening you'll recycle the beer so to speak adding to the flooding issue. I guess the only hope is to drink enough beer that I forget to worry about it.

For those in California, and in the other areas that have a lot of snow this year, good luck this spring. Hopefully it isn't all going to melt at once.

Boon Docker wrote:

dewey02 wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Just to throw a wrench in the works...

We are talking harmful Greenhouse Gases here, right?

Do you know the biggest producer of Greenhouse Gas?

It's from cows producing Methane gas, a gas more destructive than CO2.
Another little tidbit, it's from cow burps. How absurd is that?

I caught all the on a BBC documentary.
I looked it up so can you.

SO!!
You can keep the RV but you have to throw out the BBQ.

I always get a good laugh out of the cow thing.
And yet, the very same people blaming the cows speak fondly of years past when Bison numbered around 60 million and covered the Great Plains.

Did not Bison belch and fart for millenia?

An estimated <100 million bison worldwide compared to 1.4 billion cows world wide today. Not a very good comparison.

I was speaking specifically of my country. I don't claim to speak for the world as some folks here apparently do. But if you want to go there, then consider that there are over 7 billion humans on the globe as well far more than the bovines.

And those humans all exhale CO2 and belch and fart too. And they heat homes and cook over fires, and many drive cars and some, including ones that post on this forum, drive extremely inefficient RVs.

So what is your point and what are your solutions?

Is it OK for you to drive your 8 mpg RV because you may be a vegetarian and don't eat beef or drink milk and therefore don't require those cows? Well, agriculture uses an awful lot of fuel to prepare land, grow crops, transfer them to your store, where you drive to, and then bring them to your heated or air conditioned home or RV and heat them up on your stove, using gas or electricity or a wood fire which all generate more CO2, and then you throw some away, which takes a garbage truck (again using that nasty fuel) to cart them away to a dump, where they decompose and put...hmmm...methane into the atmosphere.

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dewey02 wrote:

Fizz wrote:
Just to throw a wrench in the works...

We are talking harmful Greenhouse Gases here, right?

Do you know the biggest producer of Greenhouse Gas?

It's from cows producing Methane gas, a gas more destructive than CO2.
Another little tidbit, it's from cow burps. How absurd is that?

I caught all the on a BBC documentary.
I looked it up so can you.

SO!!
You can keep the RV but you have to throw out the BBQ.

I always get a good laugh out of the cow thing.
And yet, the very same people blaming the cows speak fondly of years past when Bison numbered around 60 million and covered the Great Plains.

Did not Bison belch and fart for millenia?

An estimated <100 million bison worldwide compared to 1.4 billion cows world wide today. Not a very good comparison.

Fizz wrote:

dewey02 wrote:


I always get a good laugh out of the cow thing.
And yet, the very same people blaming the cows speak fondly of years past when Bison numbered around 60 million and covered the Great Plains.

Did not Bison belch and fart for millenia?

There ya go!
A perfect subject for a research grant.
The effect of Bison burps in the production of methane gas.

P.S.
I did a quick google on the domestic animal population, it's in the billions with lots of zeros... Who knew ??

The Bison population exploded soon after smallpox wiped out most of the native population.

Are we off track or what :)

Speaking of water there are about 50 cubic miles of radioactive water flowing into the Pacific Ocean per year from the Fukushima disaster. They should have it under control in 40 years or so. No I'm not worried about the supposed GW or much else and when I hit the freeway entrance ramp the CTD will be singing her sweet song.

dewey02 wrote:


I always get a good laugh out of the cow thing.
And yet, the very same people blaming the cows speak fondly of years past when Bison numbered around 60 million and covered the Great Plains.

Did not Bison belch and fart for millenia?

There ya go!
A perfect subject for a research grant.
The effect of Bison burps in the production of methane gas.

P.S.
I did a quick google on the domestic animal population, it's in the billions with lots of zeros... Who knew ??

The Bison population exploded soon after smallpox wiped out most of the native population.

Are we off track or what :)

So it rains a lot in Ca this year (not the worst year by far by the way), and that equates to global warming?

The problem we have is related to our ability to build on land that floods every so often on fairly predictable cycles. And our lack of wanting to spend money on fixing or maintaining infrastructure. And the very fact that we build at all, especially dams, creates problems with where all that water goes and how it gets there.

We do need the dams and reservoirs. We need more in fact. But we need to realize that maintaining them comes at a price. Same with roads. They're all built on dirt. And when that dirt gets saturated after prolonged dryness, it tends to move.

If you're old enough, and lived in Ca all that time, you'd remember this happening before. Twice in my lifetime.

Methane and Nitrous Oxide have 25 and 250 times the impact of carbon dioxide as greenhouse gases. Here are the US contributors by year, normalized to millions of tons of CO2. Note that greenhouse gas emissions have already peaked before the last recession in 2008. Coal plants are being replaced by natural gas which is twice as efficient to generate electricity, cheap, and cleaner.

Fizz wrote:
Just to throw a wrench in the works...

We are talking harmful Greenhouse Gases here, right?

Do you know the biggest producer of Greenhouse Gas?

It's from cows producing Methane gas, a gas more destructive than CO2.
Another little tidbit, it's from cow burps. How absurd is that?

I caught all the on a BBC documentary.
I looked it up so can you.

SO!!
You can keep the RV but you have to throw out the BBQ.

I always get a good laugh out of the cow thing.
And yet, the very same people blaming the cows speak fondly of years past when Bison numbered around 60 million and covered the Great Plains.

Did not Bison belch and fart for millenia?

"P.S. Gary (the OP) ... sorry for this gigantic segue off your original heavy rains topic!! The way it's going, we're finally not going to run out of water this summer at our residence from a dry spring and well plus, more importantly, we'll be able to once again tow our small boat behind our RV to a CA lake that actually has water and fish in it"


I am feeling slighted here...I don't see no stinkin invite to go boatin".

Gary