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mikestock
Explorer
Dec 30, 2016

50 amp, 240 volt hookup without equipment ground

My son has purchased a lake house and we found a 50 amp RV plug. I checked it out and it has 120 volts from each leg to neutral and 240 volts between hot legs. The problem is that there is no ground wire attached to the round ground receptacle. I can see no easy way to remedy this without drilling through a brick wall and pounding a rod into the ground. I would be okay doing this if it were my own house. Also, I probably won't be using the hookup that often

Am I taking a great risk by using the outlet, as is, without a ground?

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  • RoyB's avatar
    RoyB
    Explorer II
    This is a 50AMP setup that might give you an idea what to look for...


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    When measuring the 50AMP Receptacle it should look like this ...

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    30/20/15AMP

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    Most RV's use the 50AMP connections as two zones of 120VAC ONLY.

    Only very few high-end RV units actually use the 240VAC connections usually for the Dryer connections...

    This is the only way a RV Unit frame gets grounded going through the shore power connection. I would definitely not ever use a connection that did not have the earth ground connection...

    Roy Ken
  • Actually, just attaching the ground terminal to a ground rod won't do much of anything. The ground rod would need to be bonded to the neutral back at the main service panel.
    I find it very odd that's it's wired this way. What kind of wire comes to it? Is it an flat SE style cable with 2 insulated wires and then a bare wire with the strands wrapped around the 2 insulated wires?
    I wouldn't use it without a ground. It would leave you susceptible to having a hot RV chassis if a wire ever shorts to the frame on your RV.
    The GFI solution mentioned would work but a 50A GFI breaker is really expensive.
  • The only way to safely do that would be using a 50 amp GFI- that would be safe and, I believe, to most codes.
  • I wouldn't do it without a ground. The ground wire should be there someplace, look close at the wiring where it comes out of the shielding, the ground wire could be there but just cut off when the shielding/insulation around the wires were cut. Another option might be (but don;t quote me) is if the house has copper water pipes and are connected to a metal pipe running outside the house under ground, you might be able to run a wire to this for an independent ground.

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