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howardwheeler's avatar
Aug 01, 2016

5500 watt Onan generator with only one 30 amp breaker?

I have set up our class C Minnie Winnie with two high efficiency ACs because the standard one will not cool it in the Texas summer. It runs fine on 30 amp shore power, and the 4000 watt Onan that came with it does fine as long as I don't run anything else AND I'm below 2500 feet in elevation. I have hard start capacitors on both ACs. Anyway,the problem is we travel mostly on trips that take us above 2500 feet elevation for at least part of the trip. As soon as we get above that the generator shuts down on overload. I know you must derate the generator for every 1000 feet. Apparently around 2500 feet it doesn't have sufficient power to keep two ACs going. So I have gotten a Cummins Onan EFI 5.5 HGJAD 2138 to replace the 4000 watt original. The specs show 45.8 amps at 120v. It should run the two ACs without a problem. But--the generator comes with a single 30 amp circuit breaker. The old generator never tripped the 30 amp breaker when running the two ACs, but instead the generator just shuts down from overload because of altitude (it was pretty consistent above 2500 feet). I have another 5500 watt Onan in my fifth wheel, but it has two circuit breakers--a 30 and a twenty. That's what I expected on this EFI generator. But the 5.5HGJAD 2138 has only one 30 amp, yet the specs from Onan clearly list the output rating at 45.8 amps. You can't tap that power, though, through the bottleneck of a 30 amp breaker. I don't have to have the extra power, but I'm wondering what gives? I'm hoping the clear reserve that the EFI 5500 watt generator has will give that 30 amp breaker the full needed amps even above 2500 feet, but I'm puzzled as to why only the 30 amp breaker. Any ideas?

10 Replies

  • Success! The new (old) 5500 Onan went in with some bracket modification and runs everything with oodles of power to spare. I did look at the breaker and everyone was right. It actually was two breakers. So we now have a cool two AC Winne Minnie with a 5500 watt fuel injected generator. No more worries about altitude! Runs quieter than the old 4000 also. That was a surprise. Total cost was around $800. I got the generator on Ebay auction but had to buy a new fuel pump for the fuel injection pressures.
  • I'll have to look again to see how it's wired in. But both units work off the single 30 amp plug that came with the Minnie Winnie. The generator has what appears to be a single 30 amp plug outlet. I'll have to look at how it's wired as well. If the generator breaker has a separate circuit, I may wired the second AC into that. Thanks for the input.
  • Have you made sure it is hooked up correctly? I am assuming the second air is properly hooked to the second leg of the genset, and not hooked to the main circuit panel, again assuming this is a 30 amp coach, being a C.
  • Never paid attention before. I just serviced a 10K Diesel RV Onan. It showed a 45 amp DOUBLE POLE BREAKER. Since the 10K Onan is rated at 83 amps, that means you can double the listing of the Breaker. So, your 2 Pole 30 amp breaker has the 48 amp capability. Doug
  • A breaker like that saves space. A peek at it's guts will tell all - 4 screws and (4) 10 gauge wires.
  • Onan often uses a dual CB that has a single handle. Did you look at the wiring?
  • The apu you purchased is NOT a RV Genset. It is a COMMERCIAL Genset. It has a 2 Pole 30 amp breaker. Rated at 48 amps. So, you should be able to run both AC units. Doug
  • I would suggest calling Onan for an explanation. The most reasonable explanations I can come up with are either an error in the published specs, or else the output is tied together at the breaker output and you do have a theoretical 60A total output before the breaker trips, 30A from each of two separate windings. Having a two-pole breaker presumably provides better protection in case one winding fails.
  • Thats a good solution. But in my case I already have the generator (it's not new) and a Minnie Winnie only has a small amount of battery power. So I don't know if it would work in my case.
  • Hi,

    Return the new generator.

    I operate my roof air with the load support feature on the Magnum 3012 hybrid inverter when I'm in the mountains.