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profdant139
Explorer II
Mar 23, 2021

Battery that can be part of the structure of a vehicle

I stumbled upon this interesting article -- the researchers have developed a battery that can also serve as a structural member. Thus, the battery may no longer be a dead weight but instead is part of the vehicle. They don't mention RVs, but it seems like this product might fit our needs, if it ever pans out:

Massless or structural battery article

Just another possible development to watch!
  • jdc1's avatar
    jdc1
    Explorer II
    wa8yxm wrote:
    I think the industry may well jump on this technology.. here is why.
    Batteries have a "life span" none of them last forever. So you now have a built in clock to "Dead car" and if it's part of the frame. you need to get not just a new $7,000 (Pirus) battery but a whole new car.


    Why do people that know nothing about a Prius say the things they say? LOL. A Prius battery is less than $2,000.

    https://parts.dublintoyota.com/p/Toyota__Prius/BATTERY-ASSEMBLY---HV-SUPPLY/63533084/G951047031.html?partner=googlebase_adwords&kwd=&origin=pla&partnerDevice=c&userLocation=9051682&gclid=Cj0KCQjwo-aCBhC-ARIsAAkNQisf1LS3A25fFI8FLWZFCTuWwTjT06hQTtP1Ap6HUhiGkm75R8aqqGYaAhLHEALw_wcB
  • rlw999 wrote:
    I can see why car manufacturers would like this -- it solves the "How much is it going to cost to replace the battery in 10 years" question because when the frame is the battery, the entire car is disposable, you have to buy a new one when the battery ages out.


    most cars are build using subframs now days so they would just chage out a subframe. they would probably have the batteries aranged as a rear, mid and front subfram.

    what it would allow is for a little less weight overall. if that subfram is the batery they dont have to build a extra fram thats strong enough to hold thoes batteries and a little more interior room.

    Steve
  • Wasn't the early Vega designed as a throwaway? It had a no sleeve block that had a very finite lifespan. Sounds like disposable design to me as the motor replacement was more than the car was worth.
  • Or they can make it modular so that the battery/framework can quickly and easily dropped out and replaced. Front wheel drive cars are designed such that you can drop the entire engine and transaxle out of the vehicle in a couple of hours for easy access/replacement.

    When is the last time a major manufacturer designed a "disposable car" where one component failure is intentionally designed to render the car irreparable? Manufactures could have been doing this for decades but they know it won't work because customers won't come back.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    I think the industry may well jump on this technology.. here is why.
    Batteries have a "life span" none of them last forever. So you now have a built in clock to "Dead car" and if it's part of the frame. you need to get not just a new $7,000 (Pirus) battery but a whole new car.
  • I can see why car manufacturers would like this -- it solves the "How much is it going to cost to replace the battery in 10 years" question because when the frame is the battery, the entire car is disposable, you have to buy a new one when the battery ages out.
  • I hope it works at some level. Going to be hard to get it into the new gigapress.
  • profdant139,

    There was a car call the "Gee Whiz" produced in India and sold in the UK which had a tubular frame--and inside were the batteries. Made by the Reva company.

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