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- MEXICOWANDERERExplorerTry this on for size...
In this day and age a person is given NO CHOICE but to exist in ignorance. Additional information about a product or service is contrived to be seen as a caveat and therefore weakness
Manufacturers and government alike strive to keep constituents ignorant and sated with perceptions that any participation is unwarranted and a waste of their time. It is almost unbelievable the amount of resistance to active participation to learn about the reality of consumerism and it's effect on individual financial health.
"Let's gossip. No mental challenge. What? Read? You must be joking. Images shouting on a screen have more impact and entertainment"
A disbeliever are we?
Go to a news site. There is text to read and a talking head repeating the same information only with emphasis on certain words and phrases. These emphasis cannot be translated into words? Sure they can. But the sources of the manipulation realize a majority of the populace want their reality shouted into their skull along with images.
Simplify. Distill. Summarize. Minimize. Distract.
It takes six months (?) without television or radio (silence the voices) to realize just how insidious verbal emphasis versus the written word can be. Once spoken words dissipate, the written word does not. i.e. text messaging versus the telephone. - Itinerant1Explorer
Almot wrote:
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Why doesn't the dash have any instruments?
"We aouldn't want to worry you"
Keeping customers in bliss of ignorance is indeed a long-standing tradition of batteries manufacturing.
There is some BMS in $900 box, and it does some cells management. This is all they are going to tell you :)
In this day and age a person chooses to live the life of an ostrich. - Itinerant1ExplorerMex, A couple components of the EMS (energy management system) of Elite GBS batteries which comes as a package if a person didn't want to peace meal the bms are...
*CPU: Central hub of the system, powered by 12 volts DC, controls alarm output signals, measures current, calculates state of charge, outputs video signal, detects ground fault conditions.
*Four cell sense board string x5 daisy chained, simple easy installation connected to the prismatic cells, measures voltage and temperature of each cell, performs cell balancing.
On the display screen there's the cell voltage/ temp screen or switch to the battery pack voltage, charge/ discharging current, SOC.
With prismatic cells a little more work in the initial install but more control over all and if a cell ***** out it can be replaced. If down the road individual cell/ cells need rebalancing easy enough to do unlike dropins. - AlmotExplorer III
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Why doesn't the dash have any instruments?
"We aouldn't want to worry you"
Keeping customers in bliss of ignorance is indeed a long-standing tradition of batteries manufacturing.
There is some BMS in $900 box, and it does some cells management. This is all they are going to tell you :) - MEXICOWANDERERExplorer
Itinerant1 wrote:
Do you mean like this?
/?/ - MEXICOWANDERERExplorer900 dollar lithium batteries do not have any kind of cell management? Oh how wonderful this all sounds.
Why doesn't the dash have any instruments?
"We aouldn't want to worry you" - AlmotExplorer III
MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
Too bad someone does not offer a 4 column stacked LED chips gauge that lets a person see what each module is up to.
To avoid unnecessary stress caused by looking at all the imbalanced cells, you would also need a BMS capable of managing each unit separately at voltages as low as 80-85%. Because factory batteries don't have this - not $900 100AH boxes. On practical level, you "have" to bring it to mid-upper 90s or it won't balance. This is a trade-off btw shortening overall battery life and risk that some cells would age sooner than others.
Charging it to 99% once in a while and trying not to go over 85 SOC rest of the time - maybe... I wonder how many users are even aware of balancing and this 30-80 thing. - Itinerant1ExplorerDo you mean like this?
- MEXICOWANDERERExplorerToo bad someone does not offer a 4 column stacked LED chips gauge that lets a person see what each module is up to.
- Itinerant1ExplorerElite GBS 500ah (4s5p)
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