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Rbertalotto's avatar
Rbertalotto
Explorer
May 20, 2016

Electrical Help Needed...TriMetric / Xantrex / Coffee

I have a Xantrex ProWatt 1000 installed in my trailer......4g wire less than 18" directly wired to the two 12v, group 31AMG batteries wired in parallel ....250a Circuit breaker between the batteries and the inverter

The "house" main wire is 4g to the circuit breaker / charger panel in the trailer with a 30a circuit breaker at the battery....the run is about 12'

I just bought a Keurig K130 Hotel/Commercial version coffee brewer. I went this route because this unit only draws 700 watts as opposed to all the other Keurig machines that draw up to 1500 watts. Many hotels have insufficient wiring in the rooms so this unit is designed just for them.

So....With trailer disconnected from "shore power"....running just on batteries with 280w solar panels.....when I turn on the coffee machine, drawing AC current through a "Kill-A-Watt" it shows I am using 5.6 amps......But my "TriMetric" battery monitor is showing a drain of -45 AMPS!!! In fact, at start up it goes as high as -52 AMPS.........AND..It is a sunny day and the solar panels are outputting 7 AMPS so those numbers are really -52 and -59 AMPS......

In fact, during one test I tripped the 30a "house" circuit breaker...............Very strange since the Xantrex is not drawing current through this circuit at all. It is directly wired to the two batteries.

I can't figure it out.....Why would the house breaker trip? The only connection between the Xantrex and the house wiring is both are attached to the "+" terminal on the battery and both "-" are connected to the TriMetric's shunt.

Any ideas?

42 Replies

  • DrewE's avatar
    DrewE
    Explorer III
    Your wiring is apparently not actually what you think it is. I'd double-check the connections to the inverter and at the circuit breakers as what you describe should not be happening. (I'm assuming the two breakers are both on the positive leads and not the ground leads. If they're on the ground side, then it's nearly inevitable that there would be cross-paths between the two systems, among other difficulties.)

    Not that it matters for your situation, but why only a 30A breaker for the house circuits when the wire to the (assumed) house distribution panel is 4 gauge? I guess if you never exceed 30A it's a moot question, but I'd think 50A or more would be handier.

    You do have your inverter connected through the tri-metric shunt, so it would show the current flowing through the inverter. Somewhere around 55A on the 12V side is just about what one would expect for your 5.6A 120VAC load. There's nothing strange going on there. (And I think you do want the inverter power to be measured by the tri-metric so it can give reasonable readings for your battery states.)
  • The battery monitor amperage is fine.. 12vdc draws will be about 10x your 120vac amps. 7a from those panels is anemic. Is the sun angle large?

    I don't have a clue why the 30a house breaker is flipping - is there a big load you're not aware of.. like the converter?

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