FOB keys and theft

Another good reason to like a key instead of another gadget. But, truth be told, if I had a car with a fob, I wouldn't carry it in a Faraday bag. I guess I just like to live life on the edge. :)

ajriding wrote:

Or they can clone your FOB signal and duplicate it.

Yes, keys are much safer because it is much more difficult to duplicate a key than it is to clone an FOB. ;)

Oh boy another thing to worry about !

That kill the convenience of having that feature. No worse than then 3”x 4” plastic covered door handle in many Ford trucks.

This came up on the forum not long ago: you can neither start nor unlock a car if the FOB is wrapped in aluminum foil.

If I ever need to shield the FOB then I will come up with a solution that is cheaper than a farabag. Foil or a metal can will work.

But I know that my truck cannot be unlocked or started when the FOB is on its hook in my fifth-wheel.

Seattle Steve wrote:

ajriding wrote:

Or they can clone your FOB signal and duplicate it.

Yes, keys are much safer because it is much more difficult to duplicate a key than it is to clone an FOB. ;)

Someone with a receiver can be near you when you click your FOB and record the signal. Then they make their own FOB which will work just fine. A key, they have to actually get possession of to copy its impression. So, yes, a key is much safer because it is much more difficult to duplicate.

rhagfo wrote:
That kill the convince

What does "kill the convince" mean?

Someday we will all need a faraday bag to store our tin-foil hat

If they boost the signal to get in and start it , won't it shut off when it gets out of range? Or is that the reason they go slow so the owner can run behind keeping it running?

keep your tin foil hat on,

Can it be done, Yes, on SOME cars, I have two that use an IR sensor no RF, try to intercept that!!!

And then even if they did intercept my cars that use RF, all they could do is open the car. Starting the car needs an RFID chip that does NOT transmit, and must be near the ignition to allow the car to start, along with in most cases needing a key.

I've got thousands of things I'm going to worry about before someone intercepting my car signal!!!

Meanwhile I'll leave my tin foil hat in a faraday shield in the attic! something for the kids to wonder about.

and geting a key for my vehicles requires going to a dealer with proof of ownership, getting picture taken, signature taken and kept on file and then waiting at least 24hours for a key to arrive.

Even virtually all locksmiths around here IF they can duplicate the chip key require proof of ownership, picture etc. if they are going from VIN number instead of a key to duplicate.

And in the highly highly unlikely case someone did manage to get my vehicles, I can track the location of any of them and police can then follow and if needed continually reduce the speed allowed by the vehicle till it is down to less than 5 mph.

I'm not worried.