Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
wnjj wrote:Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
I don’t know if security is really the point but going electronic does raise the bar. People have been punching cylinders and using shaved keys for years.
wnjj wrote:Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
I don’t know if security is really the point but going electronic does raise the bar. People have been punching cylinders and using shaved keys for years.
Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
Bedlam wrote:
I'm not sure how many of the enthusiastic adopters of fobs and vehicle connectivity have a background in RF or security. I have been in tech over 40 years and see glaring issues with the current line of products that cannot be updated or remediated other than disabling them. The saving grace is that thieves typically are not that smart and the configured devices and tools are not as pervasive or available for these exploits. Anyone that is computer literate or ambitious can cheaply build or program devices that can create a bypass due to this drive for more convenience.
fj12ryder wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)
It's a wonderful little device!
fj12ryder wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. :)
It's a wonderful little device!
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It's a wonderful little device!
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It's a wonderful little device!
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I Have always keep a key hidden on my truck as a backup. Once while riding atv’s My friend had a pretty bad accident, my truck keys were in a storage box on his Atv. In the accident the box was damaged and we were unable to open it. Luckily I had the spare so we could leave the area.
I want the remote start on my next truck probably more than any other option, but with so many trucks using the key fob is there any way to start the truck with a back up key.
FF286 wrote:
I Have always keep a key hidden on my truck as a backup. Once while riding atv’s My friend had a pretty bad accident, my truck keys were in a storage box on his Atv. In the accident the box was damaged and we were unable to open it. Luckily I had the spare so we could leave the area.
I want the remote start on my next truck probably more than any other option, but with so many trucks using the key fob is there any way to start the truck with a back up key.
