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D_E_Bishop
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Oct 30, 2014

Follow Up on "New mech. seems to know his stuff"

Well the new mechanic did a lot of stuff including a rebuild of the QuadraJet and it passed CA Smog as well as our newer SUVs. He tested it on a severe grade and it ran great. I picked it up and drove the 45 - 50 miles home and same old lack of power problems. When I took the rig to Gary, I told him it felt like it was starving out under a variety of circumstances and ask him to test both the fuel system and the ignition system. The carb needed rebuilding and the distributor bench tested perfectly which is why I didn't have pinging or misfiring when the vacuum hose collapsed as the centrifugal weights cook care of things.

So now the results, ran great on surface streets but starving out on full throttle and on long grades with the rear jets open.

Back to Gary. Asked if he did a fuel pressure test both on the rear pump and the engine pump. He hadn't because of the difficulty in reaching the pump ... Well he finally checked the engine mounted pump and it was leaking and so he replaced that pump. Some but insignificant improvement. Pulled the hose off the regulator and found the rear pump wasn't putting out even the 6lbs needed.

Conclusion, drain the 90 gallon tank which is half full, drop the tank and replace the in tank pump. Fortunately he has a full lift and may be able to lower the tank without draining. I strongly suggested he drain the tank first but it's his life if that sucker falls...

I already had the extra filters in the filter compartment so he's good to go there for a change out after running for a few miles and filtering out any stuff knocked loose during repairs. So after R&R the tank and the pump, all he has to do is test drive and change both high side filters, the carb filter and the inline filter on the genny.

Cost an additional $850 for both pumps and labor.

Sometimes even good mechanics don't think and assume stuff. Hoping it's done and back home on Friday as we have to start living in it part time during our interior S&B remodel project. Hopefully the final follow up on Saturday or
Sunday.

6 Replies

  • is this a TBI 454? I had a 92 454 TBI that I went round and round with,.. someone finally told me there was an error in programming from GM of the chip. I am not sure when GM came out with the TBI or the chip.

    If you do have the TBI I would talk to Brian from http://tbichips.com

    His chip fixed all my issues.
  • RJsfishin wrote:
    His "severe grade" must have not been as severe as yours.

    But I learned something new,......this is the first I knew of a carbureted vehicle w/ an "in tank" fuel pump.
    I had an 84 Itaska 454 w/ only the engine pump. Many had an external rear pump, but mine never gave a problem.
    Good luck on the results,....you deserve it !


    You're right, my grade was up to 6% and about three miles.

    And the mechanic has an '89 Southwind without the in tank pump which is why he said he didn't check. I guess they had to overcome the heat problem Harvard mentioned.
  • I had a 84 GMC with an engine mounted mechanical fuel pump design that would not pressure up when it was allowed to warm up to reach the temperature of a cooling engine block. This would routinely happen when ever we stopped for a quick burger on a hot day. It would take 15-20 miles at low power until it recovered normal operation. Two different GMC fuel pumps did the same thing. Was not until I installed a 3rd party pump that the problem was solved.

    Turns out when the "genuine" GMC fuel pump heated up and due to thermal expansion a leak developed around a rubber gasket seal between the Hi P output and the Low P return to tank line.
  • His "severe grade" must have not been as severe as yours.

    But I learned something new,......this is the first I knew of a carbureted vehicle w/ an "in tank" fuel pump.
    I had an 84 Itaska 454 w/ only the engine pump. Many had an external rear pump, but mine never gave a problem.
    Good luck on the results,....you deserve it !
  • I have been following your "battles" with interest.

    Again when done post your review on RVSERVICEREVIEWS.com

    Good luck