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rforehand
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Nov 24, 2014

Generator fried microwave after gen shut down several times

I have a 2014 coachmen Leprechaun Class C with a 4000 Onan, in fact I have 3 because I own a small RV Rental business. A customer returned one yesterday and told me that they tried to use the microwave and the gen shut off (no breakers kicked, the gen physically shut off). I tried this morning, and the micro shut the gen off in the first 5 seconds. I then ran the A/C and everything else for a bit, and tried to run the micro again and it ran for a bit, then shut the gen off again. I tried again, it worked for a minute. The microwave etc worked fine on shore power.

I then took the exact same micro out of another of the exact same RV's, and put the micro from the RV that was shutting down the gen into another RV, exactly the same. I basically swapped microwaves between RV's, which the RV's and microwaves are exactly the same. The RV that was good to go ran fine with the Microwave out of the RV that had the gen shutting down, but the RV that had the Gen shutting down fried the microwave from the good RV. So it's definitely not the microwave. The Onan code that I pulled from the troubleshooting guide and the indicator light was 12, which says to contact authorized onan dealer…Any advice or recommendations on what I can troubleshoot? perhaps the outlet that the microwave is plugged into? I'm not sure what to check here, my guess is that there is too much amps or volts getting pushed through the outlet to fry the microwave, but why on earth would is the generator shutting off? there is a 20 amp breaker on going from the fuse box to the microwave, and a 30 amp breaker on the generator and Main breaker inside the RV. What would cause an appliance to shut the generator down vice kicking the breaker?

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  • New INFO: Initially, the microwave was inoperable, no lights, didn't work at all when plugged into any outlet, but I just plugged it in again and it now works again. I suppose it's possible that the microwave shut down prior to frying? not sure what explains why the microwave appeared to be done, but is working again…..by the way, this is the microwave from another RV, not the one that was shutting the gen down.

    Just to recap, the microwave that was shutting the gen down was put in another RV and the gen ran fine, the micro from the other RV was put in the RV that had the gen shutting down and appeared to fry, but now works again on shore power. haven't tried to run it off the gen again, i'm afraid to run anything off of the gen at this point…
  • Thanks for the information. I just talked with a gen mech company and they charge $250 to come out. I tested the volts in the outlet that the microwave was plugged into and it reads 119. Let me start by saying again, thank you very much for any and all information/recommendations, by no means am I challenging any input by anyone, I'm extremely grateful for everyones input, but I do want to try to understand as much about the issue as possible because I have very little time to figure it out and get it corrected. An over voltage condition seems to explain why the microwave was fried, but why was the generator shutting off when I would turn on the microwave? and the microwave was plugged up with power to it with no problems with the gen running for hours, only when you operated the microwave would there be any issue. If the outlet was getting too much voltage, wouldn't it fry the microwave even if were on in operation but simply plugged in?
  • Just an educated guess. The microwave is an "unfriendly" load for the generator, with its current draw not directly following the voltage waveform. The circuit breaker reacts to time-averaged current, while there might in reality be very short current spikes many times the breaker value that don't result in a trip. There could be a weak link anywhere in the generator circuitry that can't handle the short current spikes, followed by a protection mechanism detecting it and shutting the generator down. Could also be a problem with the voltage regulator being confused by the unfriendly load, too. Not knowing the Onan internals in any detail, I'd have to say the problem could be with almost anything in the generator part. My first shot in the dark would be to make sure all the electrical connections are tight, clean all of the connectors, and reseat plug-in circuit boards if there are any.
  • Overvoltage condition..........no breaker tripping cause amperage was OK

    Need to look up specific model service manual to find procedure to adjust regulator/governor speed/voltage control.

    Luckily just microwave.....could have fried AC Unit motor or DC control boards, depending on how high voltage went.
  • sounds like an Over voltage problem on ONE leg of the Onan output

    this could be caused by a bad connection on the Other winding..the one with the voltage regulator sense circuit (field current)

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