Honda EU 2000 ability = impressive

horton333 wrote:
I made a comparison to another, cheaper, unit which will run an A/C reliably. Do you have any comment on that observation? You have distorted what I said with regards to Honda, including insulting me with comments I am "hypocritical". Where did I suggest they misrepresented their capacity?

You said, and I quote - "The low surge rating is demonstrated by not being able to run an A/C ..."

Yes, a clear misrepresentation of the facts. Honda's EU2000i features the best surge capability of any inverter genset in this class yet Honda makes no claim of any kind that it will. And now you're complaining that the reason is the EU2000i doesn't offer surge capability to run an A/C unit? You bet - hypocritical. :S

It is the same class of generic 2 k unit (rated 1,800 watts continuous), and was only one third the price. It is a direct competitor, but perhaps I should not be comparing such a cheap unit to the Honda......at least not on points where it is better.

the older unit you "compared o you said had a 2200 watt capa. thats 10% higher than the honda which is 2000, you are comparing apples to oranges

I made a comparison to another, cheaper, unit which will run an A/C reliably. Do you have any comment on that observation?
You have distorted what I said with regards to Honda, including insulting me with comments I am "hypocritical". Where did I suggest they misrepresented their capacity?

horton333 wrote:
The low surge rating is demonstrated by not being able to run an A/C ..... as compared to a 10 year old no-name knockoff of a very similar nominal capacity. The surge capacity required to start an A/C is well above 2kw, maybe double or more depending on the A/C unit.

Honda makes no claim that their EU2000i is in any way suitable for successfully starting and running a 13,500 BTU roof mount A/C so it's hypocritical to complain. :R True - given certain requirements are met many (myself included) have proven it is possible, the catch being success is not guaranteed as so many variables are involved. I've been able to start and run a variety of 13.5K A/C units with either EU2000i I've owned BUT in order to successfully do so I made a number of changes - switched the dino oil to Mobil 1 synth, equipped the A/C in question with a Supco SPP6 hard start cap, treated the premium non-ethanol gas with SeaFoam, and even wired up the digital thermostat in our previous Spree so I could start the A/C compressor first then turn on the fan. Here in S Ontario where we're near sea level either EU would start any of my A/C units provided ambient outside temps were no higher than the mid 80s ... BUT as temps and/or elevation rose success became less and less. How one could complain a genset won't always handle a task for which the manufacturer makes clear it's not suitable, claiming it suffers from inadequate surge capability is absurd. :S

I have an EU2000i I picked up used for $350. Runs great. Considering getting another and run them in tandem when necessary. Most of the time I should only need one.

SoundGuy wrote:

horton333 wrote:
I didn't expect it to work the A/C based on people's comments on the low surge capacity of the Hondas ...

LOW surge capacity? :h Honda's EU2000i has the BEST surge capacity of any 2K inverter genset currently available as it can easily maintain a full 2000 watt surge rating for 1/2 hour, primarily due to it's 20% larger engine. A Yamaha EF2000iS owner would be lucky to manage 20 secs at full rating, which is not surprising considering it's meagre 79 cc engine.

Agreed, the surge capacity is nothing short of amazing on the Eu.
A buddy of mine and I ran tests between our gens, mine Honda and his Yamaha. There was no comparison. The Honda out performed it so bad that he sold his and bought a bigger gen.
Also, I have an Ammeter so I can monitor current and I have cought my Honda putting out 16+ amps (rated 13A) without any complaint.

The low surge rating is demonstrated by not being able to run an A/C ..... as compared to a 10 year old no-name knockoff of a very similar nominal capacity. The surge capacity required to start an A/C is well above 2kw, maybe double or more depending on the A/C unit.

horton333 wrote:
I didn't expect it to work the A/C based on people's comments on the low surge capacity of the Hondas ...

LOW surge capacity? :h Honda's EU2000i has the BEST surge capacity of any 2K inverter genset currently available as it can easily maintain a full 2000 watt surge rating for 1/2 hour, primarily due to it's 20% larger engine. A Yamaha EF2000iS owner would be lucky to manage 20 secs at full rating, which is not surprising considering it's meagre 79 cc engine.

I was actually disappointed with the capacity of my new Honda 2000 watt. My old ultra cheap (inverter) 2200 unit would work the A/C. all day every day. The Honda dies immediately, both times I tried. I didn't expect it to work the A/C based on people's comments on the low surge capacity of the Hondas, but still....
The good points are quieter and ridiculously easy to start, but capacity and the price .... meh.