How To Outstupid The Best In Safety Devices (LPG)

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Small disposable cylinders were subject to refilling about 20 years ago, when smallest refillable cylinder was 5 gallons.
Later you could buy 2.5 and even 1 gallons legal cylinders and since 2.5 filled my need for torch and barbecue supply just fine, I had no more need to endanger my life.

Spit into the disposable bottle valve? Kayteg1 when I was refilling butane bottles for the beach campers down here I had to go through an elaborate process.

Refill the bottle. Check for leaks. If there was a leak I froze the bottles, took an ice pick and re-seated the bottle's valve then re-checked. That cannot be done with propane and the average freezer. I ended up buying brass caps for my own bottles. The caps had cut out inner-tube discs for seals.

MrWizard wrote:
According to news articles
They were transporting a portable grill with a portable cylinder, one or two pound throw away type
They neglected to remove the cylinder
Some how bumped a knob, when loading the grill into the car
So the valve was open, leaking propane in the car
It was not 'on' in the sense of being used aka burning
Just accidently on
Still stupid and lazy,, it takes like 30 seconds to unscrew a propane bottle, maybe less

Then of course they had the propane flash explosion aka ignition of the vapor in the car

Its been few years since I quit using those disposable cylinders, but at the time they were not design for reuse. Meaning once you attach them to grille, you should not detach them unless for disposal.
Few times I tried- the cylinder valve leaked.
Than how intoxicated you have to be to not smell the propane and light a cigarette?

I have used the plug below to guarantee ZERO LEAKAGE even on an older non float shutoff OPD tank. Left out in the sun for weeks. Their cost is under a dollar. I will not transport or store a tank without one. Propane distributor or hardware store just ask for one.

ctilsie242 wrote:

Chum lee wrote:
Now the engineers need to work on damage prevention from the inside as well as outside the vehicle. Maybe NASA has a fire proof low cost space suit with body armor by now? What's next? I can't imagine they couldn't smell the propane in advance.

Chum lee

Vehicle engineers would just add a propane detector which would, if triggered, roll all windows down, and lock the vehicle from starting until it is towed to a dealership, similar to what is done when newer diesel ECUs sense no DEF present.

Good idea!

A propane detector is also known as a hydrocarbon detector common to most of our RV's. But, . . . . how sensitive should it be? I can see it now. You're driving down the road, your significant other breaks wind, the engine stops, the windows open and now your on the side of the road calling AAA for a tow back to the dealer to clear the fault code. Now there's some sitcom material. What should the f*rt code be?

Chum lee

Party. Explosion. Maybe there is more to this story than meets the maraschino cherry.

Chum lee wrote:
Now the engineers need to work on damage prevention from the inside as well as outside the vehicle. Maybe NASA has a fire proof low cost space suit with body armor by now? What's next? I can't imagine they couldn't smell the propane in advance.

Chum lee

Vehicle engineers would just add a propane detector which would, if triggered, roll all windows down, and lock the vehicle from starting until it is towed to a dealership, similar to what is done when newer diesel ECUs sense no DEF present.

Now the engineers need to work on damage prevention from the inside as well as outside the vehicle. Maybe NASA has a fire proof low cost space suit with body armor by now? What's next? I can't imagine they couldn't smell the propane in advance.

Chum lee

MrWizard wrote:
According to news articles
They were transporting a portable grill with a portable cylinder, one or two pound throw away type
They neglected to remove the cylinder
Some how bumped a knob, when loading the grill into the car
So the valve was open, leaking propane in the car
It was not 'on' in the sense of being used aka burning
Just accidently on
Still stupid and lazy,, it takes like 30 seconds to unscrew a propane bottle, maybe less

Then of course they had the propane flash explosion aka ignition of the vapor in the car

I agree that this is probably 50% stupidity and 50% accident. But I'll echo a previous post in that it's more evidence that smoking is bad for you. If they weren't smokers they probably wouldn't be injured, and still have their Kia and grill.