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AlanB
Explorer
Aug 30, 2013

Norcold 1200 LRIM not cooling on gas

This is intended as information and possibly help others, as these are very common RV refridgerators.

After returning to Arizona from a trip along the Oregon coast, the motorhome was parked in front of our home a few days as we were planning on leaving again.

I noticed the cooling fans were not running. At first, I started looking for an electrical problem, such as power to the fans. With some difficulty I was able to connect test leads to the thermastacic switch. Power was good. It was then I noticed how cool the area was and that the fan was only switched on at 130 deg F. The refridgerator was about 60 inside, but the freezer was still making ice! The flame at the burner looked good, a nice blue flame with a slight roar.

Doing some online research, I came across a series of videos produced by Roger and Onna Lee Ford. They very clearly explain the operation and trouble shooting of these units. They also claim that most cooling units now in landfills were mis-diagnosed and could have been repaired.
http://rvrefrigeration.com/

Based on that, I plugged into power and waited till the next morning, surprise, the fin temp in the food compartment was at 22 deg, and the fans were running. Switched back to gas and it slowely warmed back up to 59.

Knowing that the unit operates from one heat source, was enough to prove the unit is O.K. I then removed the burner assembly and cleaned it. Also vacuumed the box. Using a mirror I looked up the chimney, I could see up to the spiral device, it looked clear. Put it back together and it was an improvement. On gas, the fin temp in the food compartment would get down to 36 overnight. Still too warm.

An email to Onna Lee Ford produced a reply, she said to check the gas pressure for 11 inches of water column. Not having a manometer, was going to make one, but it happened we had a repair guy working on the ice maker of our house Kenmore. He had one and took a reading. It was right on at 11 inches. The service guy was familier with Norcolds and asked if I had the new upgraded burner. After some checking, found out that they replaced the original 8 slot burner with a 7 slot burner. Got one installed and in the first 15 minutes it was clear it was better. The cooling fans came on (would take at least two hours with the old burner) and the fin temps dropped to 39 in 30 minutes. By the next morning, fin temp. was 19 degrees! Freezer was 3 degrees in the ice maker compartment and there was a thin layer of ice in food compartment on the bottle water.

In summery, the gas performance was probably always marginal at best, but not noticed because we were usually on electric. When dirt fell into the burner its performance was seriously degredaded. After cleaning, it looked good, sounded good, but performance was still marginal. Its just by luck I found out about the newer burner.

Roger and Onne Lee were very helpful even though they werent making any money from me, would certainly go to their shop if you are in the area.

Hope this can help someone. Be sure to watch the videos, very informative.

8 Replies

  • Gjac's avatar
    Gjac
    Explorer III
    Alan thanks for posting the video links. Will 7 slots mean less air to gas ratio? Will this cause a hotter flame?
  • For your test if you have the time, is to remove the orifice from the NEW burner assbly and install in the OLD burner and see what happens. Doug
  • The "7 slot" vs "8 slot" is for identification. The orifice is a part of the burner assembly. I don't know specifically if having 7 slots explains the improvement or if its the orifice that came with it that explains the improvement or the combination of both. I can't measure gas flow to compare. To me, it doesn't matter. Replacing the burner assembly made it work. For some reason Norcold changed the design and issued a new part number to replace the older 8 slot unit.
  • The orifice is included. When I use the term "burner", I mean burner/orifice as an assembly. I kind of assumed the orifice is matched to the burner, not sure about that though.
    The old orifice is clear, I can see light through it. I originally blew a solvent through it to clean it. I also blew air up the chimney tube and had debris rain down. After that initial cleaning, the fin temps dropped to 36 overnight. Installing the new burner assembly produced a fin temp of 19 overnight.
  • AlanB wrote:
    Doug, This is specific to Norcold 1200 series, may not apply to any others. I understand if you order a new burner, you get the 7 slot version.

    I understand your skepticism, So was I, but, hard to argue with results.
    The old burner looked perfect, no corrosion, it was clean with only a slight discoloration around the slots. I was very skeptical about the burner as the old burner had nice healthy blue flame. This was not a fluke, I was very careful to only change the burner, no other changes. The new burner seemed to have a taller, narrower flame. I was impressed at how quickly it brought the temps down. The fans came on in only 15 minutes. In 30 minutes the cooling fins were at 39 degrees. The old burner couldn't do that all day long.

    alanb


    I sent you a Pm. But there is NO WAY 7 versus 8 will cause that drastic a drop. Your link as I replied does NOT state such a drastic drop in temp. You stated you only replaced the burner, but the kit shows the ORIFICE is included. SO, just having a good open clean Orifice will have increased the BTU's of the flame. NOT just the slots in the burner. I believe you increased your performance, but NOT because of the slots but, because of the orifice. As I stated in my PM, I have worked on and fixed hundreds of 1200 model over the years and I have NEVER had a drastic difference in performance between LP and 120 that I have NOT been able to fix and changing the burner/orifice was not one of the fixes. Doug
  • Doug, This is specific to Norcold 1200 series, may not apply to any others. I understand if you order a new burner, you get the 7 slot version.

    I understand your skepticism, So was I, but, hard to argue with results.
    The old burner looked perfect, no corrosion, it was clean with only a slight discoloration around the slots. I was very skeptical about the burner as the old burner had nice healthy blue flame. This was not a fluke, I was very careful to only change the burner, no other changes. The new burner seemed to have a taller, narrower flame. I was impressed at how quickly it brought the temps down. The fans came on in only 15 minutes. In 30 minutes the cooling fins were at 39 degrees. The old burner couldn't do that all day long.

    alanb
  • HOW do you determine what the new burner will have in number of slots????? The burner sent will be the one for your specific Model/Serial number. According to Norcold, there is NO designation in their part listing for 7 or 8 slot burner. I believe, yes, the new burner fixed your problem, but the original burner was probably corroded and not to spec. Doug

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