Stopped at a Camping World this afternoon, and before I could get out of the coach, an employee had the hose attached and tried to fill my on-board propane bottle. All kinds of hissing off to the side of the connection, so he unscrews it, says that it may be cross threaded, then tries again with a good screw-down fit Well, more hissing and loss of propane from hose. I ask him to reconnect 3rd try, after we both inspect the brass threads to see the starting point brass is sheared off, and same thing - loss of propane out the hose from the supply tank at Camping World Store.The last time I got propane, the connection worked fine! So, does this indicate that maybe the guy today messed it up by cross-threading it? He did in fact connect it once, then backed off and reconnected it before terming my orifice as damaged.So, I said I'll come back in the morning to have the service dept. R & R a new brass orifice on my propane tank.What am I looking at in price/cost in terms of dollars?Should I approach the General Manager at the Camping World with this issue, after getting the work started on the R & R?Just want to be fair here, is all.

you should have never left.you should have gone to the manager right away.

In 36 years of dealing with Motorhome ASME tanks, I have NEVER seen or even understand HOW you could possibly strip those wide groove threads on the ASME tank fill nozzle. I would suspect your black gasket seal has fallen off and THAT is why you had the hissing and leakage. I would go to another LP tank filler and explain what happened and have them check it out. Doug

Are you sure you are seeing sheared threads? My guess would be a missing gasket preventing a good seal. The threads are not meant to seal.

Chris Bryant wrote:Are you sure you are seeing sheared threads? My guess would be a missing gasket preventing a good seal. The threads are not meant to seal.Good question, and info, Chris. The first 1/4" of the brass thread is sheared-off, but the supply screw-down @ CW socketed in/screwed on very well. Read on below....OK, just checked for O-ring(s) Chris, mine has a black O-ring in there. It is intact, and it moves around circularly when I put my finger on it. But it's there. His, (CW's)connecting orifice had a black rubber seal I could see. The guys said they'd just filled a propane tank earlier, so it wasn't their connection they said.

dougrainer wrote:In 36 years of dealing with Motorhome ASME tanks, I have NEVER seen or even understand HOW you could possibly strip those wide groove threads on the ASME tank fill nozzle. I would suspect your black gasket seal has fallen off and THAT is why you had the hissing and leakage. I would go to another LP tank filler and explain what happened and have them check it out. DougDoug, that's what I thought too! My brass orifice and threads take the filling threads easy enough, but because the connection is down low on my RV, it seems to take another try, lining-up their threading.Both mine, and theirs have one black O-ring intact. Wonder what's going on here?

Propane Tank @ Camping World Store - threads stripped!

dougrainer
Nomad
Nov 01, 2015
Bobbo wrote:
B.O. Plenty wrote:
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

You will always find "professionals" who don't do what they should. Years ago, I took a continuing education course that talked about hospital acquired infections. They talked about one hospital that had a string of infections of a very unusual kind. I don't recall now what the germ was. The infectious disease department FINALLY tracked it down. The pharmacist who made the IV's was a nose picker.

There are a LOT of professions that you have to be licensed to do the job. As stated above, NOT ALL follow the law and training, that does NOT mean having regs and rules is a futile gesture. You do NOT have to be a licensed worker to fill LP in Texas. But, you MUST be under the watch of a licensed LP filler. Doug
Bird_Freak
Explorer II
Oct 31, 2015
B.O. Plenty wrote:
dougrainer wrote:
Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.
Not to me it doesn't. Have you never seen someone doing a job they were not licensed to do?
Bird_Freak
Explorer II
Oct 31, 2015
itguy08 wrote:
Chris Bryant wrote:
NASA isn't fond of O rings either. Watching Challenger from my back yard left a lasting impression.

It was more like not listening to the engineers that they didn't know what would happen to the O-Ring at those temperatures and launching any way. There was plenty of blame to go all around but had they listened to the engineers and postponed the launch those people would still be here today.
You are exactly right. A very good friend of mine was a lead engineer with the Saturn 5 and worked on the shuttles also quit NASA because of this before the Challenger blew up. They called him back days after the accident and he went back to work for them.
Skid_Row_Joe
Explorer
Oct 31, 2015
dougrainer wrote:
That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug

Doug, Great info to learn here. :)
Bobbo
Explorer II
Oct 31, 2015
B.O. Plenty wrote:
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.

You will always find "professionals" who don't do what they should. Years ago, I took a continuing education course that talked about hospital acquired infections. They talked about one hospital that had a string of infections of a very unusual kind. I don't recall now what the germ was. The infectious disease department FINALLY tracked it down. The pharmacist who made the IV's was a nose picker.
MEXICOWANDERER
Explorer
Oct 31, 2015
Glad to know I am not alone in my bitterness toard NASA salesman executive officers who sought kudos from the government for funding. Later on I spent en entire day with a Morton Thiokol engineer tring to ring him out of a deep deprrssion. He was under an illusion that the American public despised him and Morton Thiokol. If it were up to me the entire senior management of NASA woild never have had the a a ility to bear children.

Change that O-ring seal ONCE PER YEAR whether you think it needs it or not. Hardware stores carry them and they used to cost thirty cents.
B_O__Plenty
Explorer II
Oct 31, 2015
dougrainer wrote:
Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug
I had one of my tanks filled at a propane dealer in Johnson City TX a couple years ago. The guy that filled it who acted like he was doing me a favor, did not open the bleeder screw and when I asked about it he said he didn't have to. Shoots that licensed theory down doesn't it?

B.O.
dougrainer
Nomad
Oct 31, 2015
Skid Row Joe wrote:
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

That "square" nut is NOT to relieve the pressure while filling. That is called the 80% valve. YOU ALWAYS OPEN IT WHEN FILLING, NO EXCEPTIONS. The reason you open it is because, IF that 80% valve spews white liquid LP while filling you STOP the fill. The LP tank has reached its 80% liquid capacity. The Auto Stop devices sometimes are not that accurate. NEVER rely on the Auto Stop valve to stop when filling. What you have experienced is the difference between states that regulate and license LP fillers and repair technicians and states that have no regulations. I live in a state(Texas) that heavily regulates LP and Natural gas and from my knowledge and being licensed by the State for 36 years agree with the laws and regulations. It makes us(Texans) safer. Too bad all states do not regulate LP and Natural gas. Doug
itguy08
Explorer
Oct 30, 2015
Chris Bryant wrote:
NASA isn't fond of O rings either. Watching Challenger from my back yard left a lasting impression.

It was more like not listening to the engineers that they didn't know what would happen to the O-Ring at those temperatures and launching any way. There was plenty of blame to go all around but had they listened to the engineers and postponed the launch those people would still be here today.
Skid_Row_Joe
Explorer
Oct 30, 2015
OK, so, with the good info and tips since my last post, where would I buy/ source an O-ring gasket for my brass receiver fitting?

BTW, I went across the Interstate highway to a commercial RV park, and filled my tank easy enough. However, there was direct leakage of liquid propane and hissing straight down from my brass receiver fitting while the guy was filling my tank. He did not open/vent the square nut to relieve pressure as the tank was filling, so, this might be the resultant condition with my weak seal on my tank when filling.

The CW store was certain their orifice was good, since they stated that they filled two more tanks this morning since last night's trying to fill my LP tank.

Just my best shot filling in info on what's going on, on my end.

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