Today's Response From Trojan
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All I am asking is this to be reacted with...en vitro...
Meaning within a living organism (hopefully).
I was asked on this forum via specific points of interest about a charger I built called The Borg. It's ugly and square (sort of) and has no redeeming values other than functionality as a battery charger. The specific questions appear under the thread dealing with Dropbox.
Please give it a look.
The way the questions were posed is a dead giveaway that genuine interest is present and not simple boredom with life in general.
And to answer a question within this thread in specific...
SULFATION of plates must occur or there exists no lead acid battery.
Constant "plating" and reversion of lead from solution is how a lead acid battery "works". Sulfation is inevitable.
It can (or not) be treated as a game. Making electro-chemical reactions a game rather than employment of two independent/interdependent disciplines makes management comprehensible. Strike that - more comprehensible to a layman.
Make no mistake about it, the best minds in the battery business get taxed to the limit dealing not with chemical formulas nor electrical equations - but with trying to explain and deal with the abstract effects (not causes) of electro chemical process. Scribbling formulas does not cut it.
So years ago on this forum I decided to attempt to share - any way you put it, it meant inform and educate interested (emphasis on that last word) individuals.
I see with satisfaction that many readers have gleaned information - really important abstracts. They actually use it. Seeing this - it is my reward.
The battery industry is consumer driven. It is also "self-regulating" via the Battery Council international - a "Company Union" so to speak...
Because of the abstract nature of electro-chemical process, it leaves itself wide open to deception (not just to the consumer but to professionals who are convinced they know what they are doing). Enter barely controlled mayhem and disinformation.
I made a good living untying disinformation knots for vendors and OEM alike. But making a living providing information is like that television marketing channel with the disappearing text crawler at the bottom of the screen. Change channels or turn the TV off - add new viewers or lose old ones, and accumulated information disappears. Threads in this forum are like that. Keep it in mind. It can be discouraging. I am not computer generated. Every response takes time and energy. I can only HOPE my responses here are absorbed and retained.
Pure concentrated information is boring. Try reading a few pages of battery information at Battery University Dot Com. It does not attempt to cover abstracts. My issuing of acerbic pronouncements would be met here with derision and deserved ridicule. I have to make this stuff comprehensible and whenever possible "more fun".
Enter the semi-interested browser who happens across a segment - an episode if you will of one of my posts or responses. Remember, the crawler has long gone off the screen. Retrieval is impossible. I had to erect and comply with a set of filters: Is the respondor serious or a Readers Digest "entertain me" seeker of passing time? How would you do this?
Simple complaints of "This makes no sense. This is worthless" would get a crack across the knuckles from my physics professor. Someone is looking for instant gratification of amusement or entertainment. Wheat vs chaff. The proof comes in the form of a followup question or lack of. If someone does not expend the energy to ask a question then they are filtered out. "Next!" Complain all they wish, without expending a half minute on the keyboard these folks have filtered themselves out. Conclusive declarations are powerful wampum.
Enigmatic expressions are often inserted by me in an attempt to pre-ignite a person's abstract information absorbsion center. Put on the thinking cap time.
Reader's Digest style "Pander to Me" thread browsers naturally are "triggered" by enigmatic expressions. Another filter. A conclusive declaration means success in filtering. A question however means exactly the opposite. Time for me to answer a legitimate question.
The easiest thing in my world is to browse online and select what interests me. What is of no interest is immediately discarded and forgotten about with a "click". This is true of web sites, white papers, forum threads, and individual responses.
I make fun of people who run around in general life making conclusive declarations to others: "Don't Buy That! Don't Read That!" Libraries, Restaurants, Grocery Stores, etc. If they make conclusive declarations in actuality, in the glowing non presence of anonymity, you can bet they do it with every other facet of their life. I run away from individuals like that in real life. A mental "click NEXT!" escape back to reality soon follows.
I do not intend to ever re-write this. Once is enough and now comes a good soaking of my fingers with DMSO.
BTW "TROJAN". World War II
Soviet barbs (Declarative Conuclusions) about everything USA goods donated to the USSR was met with the following.
A pallet of cases. Inside the palletized cartons were stacks of condoms. They were in excess of a foot in length.
Stamped on the cartons was the notation: MEDIUM
Meaning within a living organism (hopefully).
I was asked on this forum via specific points of interest about a charger I built called The Borg. It's ugly and square (sort of) and has no redeeming values other than functionality as a battery charger. The specific questions appear under the thread dealing with Dropbox.
Please give it a look.
The way the questions were posed is a dead giveaway that genuine interest is present and not simple boredom with life in general.
And to answer a question within this thread in specific...
SULFATION of plates must occur or there exists no lead acid battery.
Constant "plating" and reversion of lead from solution is how a lead acid battery "works". Sulfation is inevitable.
It can (or not) be treated as a game. Making electro-chemical reactions a game rather than employment of two independent/interdependent disciplines makes management comprehensible. Strike that - more comprehensible to a layman.
Make no mistake about it, the best minds in the battery business get taxed to the limit dealing not with chemical formulas nor electrical equations - but with trying to explain and deal with the abstract effects (not causes) of electro chemical process. Scribbling formulas does not cut it.
So years ago on this forum I decided to attempt to share - any way you put it, it meant inform and educate interested (emphasis on that last word) individuals.
I see with satisfaction that many readers have gleaned information - really important abstracts. They actually use it. Seeing this - it is my reward.
The battery industry is consumer driven. It is also "self-regulating" via the Battery Council international - a "Company Union" so to speak...
Because of the abstract nature of electro-chemical process, it leaves itself wide open to deception (not just to the consumer but to professionals who are convinced they know what they are doing). Enter barely controlled mayhem and disinformation.
I made a good living untying disinformation knots for vendors and OEM alike. But making a living providing information is like that television marketing channel with the disappearing text crawler at the bottom of the screen. Change channels or turn the TV off - add new viewers or lose old ones, and accumulated information disappears. Threads in this forum are like that. Keep it in mind. It can be discouraging. I am not computer generated. Every response takes time and energy. I can only HOPE my responses here are absorbed and retained.
Pure concentrated information is boring. Try reading a few pages of battery information at Battery University Dot Com. It does not attempt to cover abstracts. My issuing of acerbic pronouncements would be met here with derision and deserved ridicule. I have to make this stuff comprehensible and whenever possible "more fun".
Enter the semi-interested browser who happens across a segment - an episode if you will of one of my posts or responses. Remember, the crawler has long gone off the screen. Retrieval is impossible. I had to erect and comply with a set of filters: Is the respondor serious or a Readers Digest "entertain me" seeker of passing time? How would you do this?
Simple complaints of "This makes no sense. This is worthless" would get a crack across the knuckles from my physics professor. Someone is looking for instant gratification of amusement or entertainment. Wheat vs chaff. The proof comes in the form of a followup question or lack of. If someone does not expend the energy to ask a question then they are filtered out. "Next!" Complain all they wish, without expending a half minute on the keyboard these folks have filtered themselves out. Conclusive declarations are powerful wampum.
Enigmatic expressions are often inserted by me in an attempt to pre-ignite a person's abstract information absorbsion center. Put on the thinking cap time.
Reader's Digest style "Pander to Me" thread browsers naturally are "triggered" by enigmatic expressions. Another filter. A conclusive declaration means success in filtering. A question however means exactly the opposite. Time for me to answer a legitimate question.
The easiest thing in my world is to browse online and select what interests me. What is of no interest is immediately discarded and forgotten about with a "click". This is true of web sites, white papers, forum threads, and individual responses.
I make fun of people who run around in general life making conclusive declarations to others: "Don't Buy That! Don't Read That!" Libraries, Restaurants, Grocery Stores, etc. If they make conclusive declarations in actuality, in the glowing non presence of anonymity, you can bet they do it with every other facet of their life. I run away from individuals like that in real life. A mental "click NEXT!" escape back to reality soon follows.
I do not intend to ever re-write this. Once is enough and now comes a good soaking of my fingers with DMSO.
BTW "TROJAN". World War II
Soviet barbs (Declarative Conuclusions) about everything USA goods donated to the USSR was met with the following.
A pallet of cases. Inside the palletized cartons were stacks of condoms. They were in excess of a foot in length.
Stamped on the cartons was the notation: MEDIUM
