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DAWg134
Mar 31, 2016Explorer
racer4 wrote:
My primary objective is to finish a daily battery charge with the generators and the 100 amp converter in the shortest time practical. When boondocking, the residential refrigerator will use about 150AH (estimate) daily of battery capacity.
With respect to the solar panel supply side of your power distribution system, your objective could easily be satisfied simply with cabling as small as 4 AWG... depending upon length. Assuming a worst-case peak current of 33A at 12 Vdc during the mid-afternoon period of maximum sunshine, your power loss over a 10 foot length of cable would be approximately 5 watts out of 400 W - a little over 1%. It would be twice that for a 20-foot run.
Keep in mind that your power distribution system is undoubtedly equipped with multiple self-resettable circuit breakers, ranging in capacity from 10A to 50A. In the overwhelming majority of RVs, these will be the inexpensive thermal-actuated variety that generally retail for around $7.50 each online. OEMs probably pay a buck apiece. Typically, you would have a separate breaker located at each end of a long cable run.
These circuit breakers are simple, fairly reliable devices that operate by routing the current through a low-impedance bi-metal strip contact that expands as the resistance causes the metal to heat up and expand in a non-uniform manner that results in one metal to expand greater than the other, causing the contacts to open. With no current running through it any longer, the metals gradually cool and contract, re-closing the contacts and permitting current to flow once again.... self resetting.
Although cheap and reliable, these circuit breakers are hardly efficient, typically requiring from 10W to 15W or more to operate. More power is required to actuate a high rated breaker because of the heavier metal strips. This means that if you are running 30A through a 50A thermal breaker, you are losing approximately 9W to each of your breakers alone at peak current. NOTE: Yes, I realize it is somewhat non-linear due to thermal conductivity considerations resulting in varying resistance within the breaker over time, but close enough for this discussion.
Bottom line, if losing 5W of solar power output due to use of 4 AWG cable is a concern for you, then you need to take a real hard look at the rest of your system and eliminate the more serious parasitic losses. High-efficiency circuit breakers that require only 1 to 2W to operate are available, but be prepared to spend $45 to $75 apiece, depending upon how you source them and the quantity that you're willing to purchase.
My advice is to concentrate instead upon achieving a balanced power distribution system that utilizes components matched to your real needs. Go back to the voltage drop calculator and see whether smaller cables will do. Seriously, I think you would be fine with 4 AWG or even 6 AWG cables on the solar side for runs of up to 20 feet and 2 AWG would be more than sufficient for the high-power applications.
You'd be better off focusing your attention upon achieving high-quality, low-impedance connections for your terminal lugs to eliminate potential losses at the ends of your cables. These are particularly bad because they tend to worsen over time and can eventually lead to problems. As I mentioned previously, also take a hard look at component such as battery separators, as the 1.5 to 2.0 A required to hold the relays in the "connected" state to charge both sets of batteries is continuous, and remains long after the sun has gone down on your solar panels and/or you've turned off your generator. In fact, this parasite will persist until it has literally drained your batteries down to the lower switching voltage.
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