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Scootin159
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Apr 29, 2014

Water damage repair

I just bought a new (to me) toy hauler - it's a 2001 Coachmen 261TH with the Filon fiberglass sidewalls. In my pre-buy inspection I found some water damage and rot, but bought it anyways since the price was right - even if it costs me thousands to repair. Anyways, now I need to do the repair work.

First let me highlight the damage:

It's on the front left corner - and on the outside just presents itself as some cracks and bubbling in the fiberglass.



If you push on the outside wall however, you'll realize that there's no structure to it - it's likely just supported in this area by the very thin fiberglass outer skin. I'm not sure which was first - a crack in the sidewall that led to water intrusion, or water intrusion from the window just above that led to sidewall damage due to lack of structure.



On the inside you can't really see too much, since there are cabinets immediately opposite. The interior wall is completely separated (it feels much worse than it looks in the photos), with two of the drawer support brackets being attached to basically nothing.





All told the area affected is about the first 6' length of the RV, going up about 3-4' from the bottom. The front corner itself is solid, but the damage seems to really start right after the rear of the water heater door (the front most hatch in the photos).

My questions now for the community are two fold:

1) Is it safe to use the toy hauler as-is short-term? If I just cover the cracks on the outside with something to prevent further damage (eternabond, more fiberglass, etc) - do I need to worry about the trailer disintegrating driving down the road? The rest of the structure of the RV is largely sound.

2) What's the best course of action for repair? Should I cut out the skin for the damaged section, do whatever frame repair is needed, apply new skin plywood, and then re-glue the skin panel itself (doing fiberglass repair for the new seam I created when I cut off the skin)?

Moved to Tech Issues forum from DIY.

  • I would think you will have to work from the inside out, and try and leave the out side skin intact.
  • The process for a rotted frame in a filon exterior trailer is different than stick and tin. A guy would have to remove and install the wood panel backing the filon and then build the frame to reinforce the composite skin. At least that's my understanding. Probably the most head scratching will be involved in how to brace the filon skin while putting pressure against the inner backing. I saw pictures of one guy that did it by pulling close to a garage wall and bracing from that.

    Good luck with your project!
  • 1) Yes
    2) A bit more than that, but you're in the ballpark. If worst case I have to salvage the appliances and trash the rest of the RV, I'll come out ahead.
    3) I've lurked a bit (including researching this issue before buying this RV), but still had some questions (hence the thread)
    4)Short answer: I can generally make things better than they were when I started.
    Long answer: I'm comfortable working with wood, metal and composites - having done various projects from major home renovations to building fiberglass and carbon components for the race car. While I certainly prefer "bolt on solutions", I have no problem fabricating one-off solutions.

    ... the line of answers up to this point are certainly making me nervous, but I'm not looking for a mint-condition RV here. I'm largely just replacing a small cargo trailer, and hoping for something I can spend the odd weekend in to save on hotels. Priority #1 is that it's safe to bring down the road though - I will be driving several hundred/thousand miles to my destinations, even though I'll only be staying at them for a few days at a time.
  • I held off on commenting, since I didn't want to be the one to rain on your parade. But now that someone else has jumped in, how about a few questions

    1 Is this your 1st RV?

    2 Did you pay more than $500 for it? If not you may have gotten a fair deal.

    3. Is this your 1st trip to this forum? Delamination and leaks are very popular topics on this forum. To many members dismay.

    4. Are you capable of building your own home? If not you are going to to get a rude awakening.
  • Scootin159 wrote:

    do I need to worry about the trailer disintegrating driving down the road?


    yes
    bumpy
  • Just my opinion...You just bought it, first mistake. To repair something that serious is going to cost the well known arm & leg, ending up with what? Was it me, I would get rid of it as fast as possible, you may take a loss, but not nearly as much if you sink $$$$$ and then try to sell it.

    Jim

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