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Arktikos
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Mar 14, 2015

What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?

I have a new (to me) 2006 Chevy 2500 and a camper to go with it. This truck has a factory tow package but the red wire "battery feed" on the factory plug at the bumper is dead, even with the truck running. Instead of trying to track down where that red wire goes under the hood I want to run another wire from the truck battery back to the camper and was wondering what amp fuse I should use to protect this circuit?

I am ordering this isolator switch Smart Dual Battery isolator which is rated for 140 Amp. Was thinking about a 200 amp fuse so that it wont blow when there is a low battery condition in the camper, coupled with say, lights and the DC fridge running starts drawing a lot of amps from the alternator.
Thanks for any advice!

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  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    Hi Arktikos,

    Thanks.

    Do consider #8 or even #6 wire for the charging path. 20 amps won't do much in the way of recharging.
  • Arktikos's avatar
    Arktikos
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    pianotuna wrote:
    Hi Arktikos,

    Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.


    That sounds like an impressive system!
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    Hi Arktikos,

    Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.
  • Arktikos's avatar
    Arktikos
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    pianotuna wrote:
    Hi smk,

    No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

    I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

    I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.


    Are you talking about running an electric water heater through an inverter off the 12V battery? If so that is a lot of amps! If it is a 1500W element, that is 12.5 amps@120v. And at 12v is 120 amps plus whatever the inverter uses. My little 8 foot cabover TC doesn't even have a water heater so I expect very little load other than the furnace.
    Anyway, thanks for your perspective.
  • pianotuna's avatar
    pianotuna
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    Hi smk,

    No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

    I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

    I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.
  • time2roll's avatar
    time2roll
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    The relay will work fine. For his own reasons pianotuna tries to stay away from automatic things. I like the relay and I prefer things automatic. It would have to be very odd circumstances where the relay remained open when you expected it to be closed.
  • Arktikos's avatar
    Arktikos
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    pianotuna wrote:
    Hi,

    The 12.9 cut out and the 13.4 connect are why I don't think the "smart" relay is a good idea. Particularly if an inverter is in use the battery voltage may drop. At least one converter goes to 13.2 when it is in "float" mode. That means the "smart" relay will not maintain the chassis battery.

    Those are some of the reasons I recommended a simple inexpensive continuous duty solenoid relay.



    I don't quite understand. How this isolator works is it makes a connection between the aux and main battery if either battery reaches 13.4v. If I am driving somewhere the main battery will be over 13.4 (more like 14.4V) and there will be a connection, charging the rv battery. If there is something in the coach drawing so much power that the truck charging system wont handle it, dragging down the alternator to under 12.9v then the connection will be cut, but the 20 amp fuse on the aux circuit to the camper will have blown anyway so that will never happen.
  • kaydeejay's avatar
    kaydeejay
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    wa8yxm wrote:
    wolfe10 wrote:
    Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


    THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

    Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

    The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

    But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.
    The correct fuse for the trailer feed on GM trucks IS 40A. The OEM wiring is sized correctly.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
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    Mar 15, 2015
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    wolfe10 wrote:
    Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


    THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

    Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

    The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

    But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.

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This truck has a factory tow package but the red wire \"battery feed\" on the factory plug at the bumper is dead, even with the truck running. Instead of trying to track down where that red wire goes under the hood I want to run another wire from the truck battery back to the camper and was wondering what amp fuse I should use to protect this circuit?

I am ordering this isolator switch Smart Dual Battery isolator which is rated for 140 Amp. Was thinking about a 200 amp fuse so that it wont blow when there is a low battery condition in the camper, coupled with say, lights and the DC fridge running starts drawing a lot of amps from the alternator.
Thanks for any advice!","body@stringLength":"947","rawBody":"I have a new (to me) 2006 Chevy 2500 and a camper to go with it. This truck has a factory tow package but the red wire \"battery feed\" on the factory plug at the bumper is dead, even with the truck running. Instead of trying to track down where that red wire goes under the hood I want to run another wire from the truck battery back to the camper and was wondering what amp fuse I should use to protect this circuit?

I am ordering this isolator switch Smart Dual Battery isolator which is rated for 140 Amp. Was thinking about a 200 amp fuse so that it wont blow when there is a low battery condition in the camper, coupled with say, lights and the DC fridge running starts drawing a lot of amps from the alternator.
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What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702022"},"body":"Hi Arktikos,

Thanks.

Do consider #8 or even #6 wire for the charging path. 20 amps won't do much in the way of recharging.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"129","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T15:30:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T15:30:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702022","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"145","rawBody":"Hi Arktikos,

Thanks.

Do consider #8 or even #6 wire for the charging path. 20 amps won't do much in the way of recharging.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702022_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702021":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702021","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702021":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:189066"},"id":"message:1702021","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702021,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702021"},"body":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi Arktikos,

Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.


That sounds like an impressive system!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"170","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T15:08:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T15:08:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702021","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"213","rawBody":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi Arktikos,

Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.


That sounds like an impressive system!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702021_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702020":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702020","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702020":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:1702020","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702020,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702020"},"body":"Hi Arktikos,

Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"108","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T15:03:09.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T15:03:09.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702020","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"116","rawBody":"Hi Arktikos,

Maximum measure load on the DC side for my inverter was 276 amps. That happened by accident.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702020_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702019":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702019","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702019":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:189066"},"id":"message:1702019","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702019,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702019"},"body":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi smk,

No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.


Are you talking about running an electric water heater through an inverter off the 12V battery? If so that is a lot of amps! If it is a 1500W element, that is 12.5 amps@120v. And at 12v is 120 amps plus whatever the inverter uses. My little 8 foot cabover TC doesn't even have a water heater so I expect very little load other than the furnace.
Anyway, thanks for your perspective.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T14:56:58.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T14:56:58.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702019","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1056","rawBody":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi smk,

No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.


Are you talking about running an electric water heater through an inverter off the 12V battery? If so that is a lot of amps! If it is a 1500W element, that is 12.5 amps@120v. And at 12v is 120 amps plus whatever the inverter uses. My little 8 foot cabover TC doesn't even have a water heater so I expect very little load other than the furnace.
Anyway, thanks for your perspective.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702019_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702018":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702018","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702018":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:36953"},"id":"message:1702018","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702018,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702018"},"body":"Hi smk,

No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T14:25:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T14:25:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702018","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"609","rawBody":"Hi smk,

No, I don't mind automatic in some cases. My charging solenoids are automatic, but I do have manual control over them. What I don't like is the 12.9 volt cut out and the 13.4 volt turn on.

I don't think I'd install wire that was only capable of 20 amps. I changed over to 50 amp automatic circuit breakers after blowing 2 60 amp fuses on the OEM charging path. (I admit I'm a power hog and I push my system HARD).

I have seen 12.7 volts on my chassis system, for example when running the water heater on the electric setting. I admit that most folks would not do that.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702018_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702017":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702017","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702017":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:108257"},"id":"message:1702017","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702017,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702017"},"body":"The relay will work fine. For his own reasons pianotuna tries to stay away from automatic things. I like the relay and I prefer things automatic. It would have to be very odd circumstances where the relay remained open when you expected it to be closed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T13:54:42.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T13:54:42.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702017","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"256","rawBody":"The relay will work fine. For his own reasons pianotuna tries to stay away from automatic things. I like the relay and I prefer things automatic. It would have to be very odd circumstances where the relay remained open when you expected it to be closed.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702017_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702016":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702016","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702016":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:189066"},"id":"message:1702016","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702016,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702016"},"body":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi,

The 12.9 cut out and the 13.4 connect are why I don't think the \"smart\" relay is a good idea. Particularly if an inverter is in use the battery voltage may drop. At least one converter goes to 13.2 when it is in \"float\" mode. That means the \"smart\" relay will not maintain the chassis battery.

Those are some of the reasons I recommended a simple inexpensive continuous duty solenoid relay.



I don't quite understand. How this isolator works is it makes a connection between the aux and main battery if either battery reaches 13.4v. If I am driving somewhere the main battery will be over 13.4 (more like 14.4V) and there will be a connection, charging the rv battery. If there is something in the coach drawing so much power that the truck charging system wont handle it, dragging down the alternator to under 12.9v then the connection will be cut, but the 20 amp fuse on the aux circuit to the camper will have blown anyway so that will never happen.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T13:18:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T13:18:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702016","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1055","rawBody":"
pianotuna wrote:
Hi,

The 12.9 cut out and the 13.4 connect are why I don't think the \"smart\" relay is a good idea. Particularly if an inverter is in use the battery voltage may drop. At least one converter goes to 13.2 when it is in \"float\" mode. That means the \"smart\" relay will not maintain the chassis battery.

Those are some of the reasons I recommended a simple inexpensive continuous duty solenoid relay.



I don't quite understand. How this isolator works is it makes a connection between the aux and main battery if either battery reaches 13.4v. If I am driving somewhere the main battery will be over 13.4 (more like 14.4V) and there will be a connection, charging the rv battery. If there is something in the coach drawing so much power that the truck charging system wont handle it, dragging down the alternator to under 12.9v then the connection will be cut, but the 20 amp fuse on the aux circuit to the camper will have blown anyway so that will never happen.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702016_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:37989":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:37989","uid":37989,"login":"kaydeejay","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-07-26T16:01:26.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-5.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:37989"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702015":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702015","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702015":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:37989"},"id":"message:1702015","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702015,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702015"},"body":"
wa8yxm wrote:
wolfe10 wrote:
Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.
The correct fuse for the trailer feed on GM trucks IS 40A. The OEM wiring is sized correctly.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T12:59:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T12:59:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702015","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"777","rawBody":"
wa8yxm wrote:
wolfe10 wrote:
Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.
The correct fuse for the trailer feed on GM trucks IS 40A. The OEM wiring is sized correctly.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702015_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2884":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2884","uid":2884,"login":"wa8yxm","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-04T17:54:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2884"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702014":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1702014","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1702014":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2884"},"id":"message:1702014","revisionNum":1,"uid":1702014,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TechnicalIssues"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1702003"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1702003"},"subject":"Re: What amp fuse for charging circuit from truck Alt?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1702014"},"body":"
wolfe10 wrote:
Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-03-15T12:03:12.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-03-15T12:03:12.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":441},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:TechnicalIssues/message:1702003/message:1702014","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"640","rawBody":"
wolfe10 wrote:
Fuses are sized to protect the WIRE, so the wire gauge will determine the correct fuse.


THIS is the correct and proper answer... LISTEN to this man

Putting a 40 amp fuse on a 12 ga wire is a good way to show of the last RV fire I saw.. This was a TT.. The TT had smoke damage to the outside, A good bath (perhaps with a bit of Clorox) is all it needed.

The Truck Pulling it was TOAST (Do not know why, Did not stop since Fire and Friend were both on scene already so no need for me to stop)

But putting a big fuse on a small wire is one way to do it.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1702014_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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