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1100Sabre
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Feb 16, 2015

What's some ideas on keeping propane flowing in the cold?

On a few occasions we've traveled in cold weather and the propane generator and furnace will shut off. Usually we wait a few minutes and can fire everything right back up. I know it's the tanks freezing so I was wondering if there was any sort of heater or heating system for your tanks. I was thinking a small heat lamp beside the tanks but I don't think that would be very safe. If there were some sort of 12 volt heating system for the tanks that would be great.
Any ideas?? If the tanks are completely full it's never an issue but once they get down a bit then they freeze up.
  • Moisture in the tank is your problem. A real LP place can fix that.
  • geotex1 wrote:
    If you go that route, please tell everyone on the forum where you are camping and also everyone in the CG to evacuate! There's a reason propane tank heaters are so expensive, even a 20# model costs about $375! Uncontrolled pressure rise is an bomb waiting to go off!

    You're not having your tank freeze at all. What you are having is a pressure drop due to temperature conforming to the laws of thermodynamics.

    You hit the first thing you can do inexpensively - keep them full! Next thing, keep them out of a draft. Many folks who camp in the cold replace their vinyl or plastic bottle covers with a nice cover fabricated out of at least 2" thick foam insulation because it also keeps the regulator warmer/shielded too. RV regulators aren't the best performing in the extreme cold either.


    Agree with the above that full propane tanks are able to supply a greater flow and pressure due to the increased area of the metal tank in contact with the liquid propane inside.

    However, the suggestion to insulate the propane tanks is absolutely the wrong thing to do - unless you also supply some source of heat inside the insulation. A bare propane tank absorbs heat energy from the surrounding air which then evaporates the liquid propane to gas to supply the appliances. A draft of air around the tank actually increases the rate of heat transfer into the tank, improving the rate of evaporation and keeping the pressure inside up. Insulating the tank cuts off the source of energy needed to evaporate the propane to a gas. Propane boils at something like minus 44 degrees F, so an air temperature above zero is plenty warm to boil off enough propane from a full tank to keep the appliances supplied.
  • There are 2 issues- any moisture in the cylinder could freeze the regulator. This is fixed by getting a real LP place to inject anhydrous methanol into the cylinder.
    The other problem is not having enough heat to vaporize the LP- keep the cylinders as full as possible. Keep both cylinders on, though that can run both cylinders empty at the same time. A light bulb under a cover could work to add heat.
  • 1100Sabre wrote:
    Any ideas?? If the tanks are completely full it's never an issue but once they get down a bit then they freeze up.


    I've only had propane freeze on me at my cabin once when it was -60f.

    I think maybe your problem is your tanks may have moisture in them. Call your local propane company and see if they can add a "drier" agent when they fill your tanks next time.
  • how cold are we talking about here? I've had no trouble running furnance, fridge, etc at around -15F... That's not cold by Canadian standards, but pretty cold for the lower 48.

    Could be your regulator is going bad or it has water in it somehow, maybe bad LP gas in the tank, too much moisture or it wasn't purged properly before first fill?
  • If you go that route, please tell everyone on the forum where you are camping and also everyone in the CG to evacuate! There's a reason propane tank heaters are so expensive, even a 20# model costs about $375! Uncontrolled pressure rise is an bomb waiting to go off!

    You're not having your tank freeze at all. What you are having is a pressure drop due to temperature conforming to the laws of thermodynamics.

    You hit the first thing you can do inexpensively - keep them full! Next thing, keep them out of a draft. Many folks who camp in the cold replace their vinyl or plastic bottle covers with a nice cover fabricated out of at least 2" thick foam insulation because it also keeps the regulator warmer/shielded too. RV regulators aren't the best performing in the extreme cold either.
  • There are 12 volt electric heating pads, intended for tanks, ultra heat pad. These are intended for water / waste tanks, and are to large to leave on full time. A relay on the furnace blower, to power the tank heater when the rv's heater is on can solve that. Some sort of quick disconnect on each tank so you can remove them for filling, and you are done.

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