winegard wingman
I currently have the sensar 111 antenna and am considering getting the wingman accessory for it. Can any of you give me any feedback on good/bad, great idea, or don't waste your money?
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Tom_M wrote:
Dutch_12078 wrote:
In the U.S. there are about 40 stations out of almost 1800 full-power stations that are broadcasting on the low-VHF channels (2-6) so for most people the reduced performance for low-VHF will not be an issue. This antenna would benefit people who live close to the transmitter sites and need to receive from multiple directions.
The two issues I see with this antenna for my use anyway, are the lack of VHF-low reception (unless in a very strong signal area), and the higher "sail area" compared to the Sensar. That's assuming of course, that it performs as well as or better than the Sensar/Wingman combo otherwise.
I agree the low-VHF lack would not be an issue for MOST people, that's why I said "...for my use..." I'm currently parked at our upstate NY cottage, and the CBS network station transmits on RF channel 6 from about 35 air miles away. It's not likely that the Rayzar Air would work here for that channel. I'd also note that the Sensar 3 does work fine here for RF channel 6, and also has excellent bi-directional pickup on the VHF channels with or without the Wingman installed. UHF channels of course, are very directional with the Wingman installed.Dutch_12078 wrote:
In the U.S. there are about 40 stations out of almost 1800 full-power stations that are broadcasting on the low-VHF channels (2-6) so for most people the reduced performance for low-VHF will not be an issue. This antenna would benefit people who live close to the transmitter sites and need to receive from multiple directions.
The two issues I see with this antenna for my use anyway, are the lack of VHF-low reception (unless in a very strong signal area), and the higher "sail area" compared to the Sensar. That's assuming of course, that it performs as well as or better than the Sensar/Wingman combo otherwise.Bill.Satellite wrote:
I'll start checking with CW and see when they get it in stock. I already have word out I want the ETL for an RV project, but apparently it's out installing a $1m transmitter. People need to get their priorities straight around here... :)
I do not believe there is any expectation that this will outperform a Sensar/Wingman combo. However, it will be much less directional and therefore capable of handling signals from multiple directions better than a Sensar, much like the Jack. Not the best distance but not nearly the concern over the specific direction that it is pointed. I have ordered one and will see how it works "for me". We don't get very far away from the cities but we move to many different cities. I have a Sensar Pro making pointing the Sensar a no-brainer but I am curious how the Raysar Air (just learned how to spell it!) works.Bill.Satellite wrote:
Tnx. Ask them to look at the page with an iPad and make sure the text isn't stomping on itself too.
Interesting observation Jeff. I never saw it that way but it becomes quite obvious when pointed out someone else.
I sent a note to Winegard to see if someone could correct the issue. We will see if they clear up the confusion.
Just to be clear, the replacement (amplified) head and new boom is $49.99 (I have seen it on-line for a bit less) and the $129.99 is the entire mount, arm and antenna.
You don't have to use the new boom. It is shorter than the existing pole for the Sensar so you don't get quite the height but it might it on a windy day.- I do not believe there is any expectation that this will outperform a Sensar/Wingman combo. However, it will be much less directional and therefore capable of handling signals from multiple directions better than a Sensar, much like the Jack. Not the best distance but not nearly the concern over the specific direction that it is pointed. I have ordered one and will see how it works "for me". We don't get very far away from the cities but we move to many different cities. I have a Sensar Pro making pointing the Sensar a no-brainer but I am curious how the Raysar Air (just learned how to spell it!) works.
Bill.Satellite wrote:
You don't have to use the new boom. It is shorter than the existing pole for the Sensar so you don't get quite the height but it might it on a windy day.
The two issues I see with this antenna for my use anyway, are the lack of VHF-low reception (unless in a very strong signal area), and the higher "sail area" compared to the Sensar. That's assuming of course, that it performs as well as or better than the Sensar/Wingman combo otherwise.- Interesting observation Jeff. I never saw it that way but it becomes quite obvious when pointed out someone else.
I sent a note to Winegard to see if someone could correct the issue. We will see if they clear up the confusion.
Just to be clear, the replacement (amplified) head and new boom is $49.99 (I have seen it on-line for a bit less) and the $129.99 is the entire mount, arm and antenna.
You don't have to use the new boom. It is shorter than the existing pole for the Sensar so you don't get quite the height but it might it on a windy day. - AH... OK
I don't know if you have the same problem, but on the iPad, the fonts all over the page are stepping on one another making it very difficult to read. Winegard really needs to get in there and fix it.
(more)I just went back and looked at it with the PC, and now that I can read it, the description is very misleading. There are two antennas: Amplified, and Non-Amplified. And unless you go in there and see whats in the box (and I didn’t), the pricing looks like the amp version is another $80. Someone really rushed this page out without vetting the problems SCVJeff wrote:
Bill.Satellite wrote:
The amplified version is $129SCVJeff wrote:
CA Traveler wrote:
wow.. That sucker is expensive..
Here's a link to the Razar Air including the amplified version.
$49.99 is expensive?
Check again, Jeff. $49.99 is for the replacement amplified head that goes on the Sensar lift assembly and uses the Sensar power injector and existing wires. The $129.99 is for the complete setup including the lift mechanism, etc., that would be needed for a new installation.Bill.Satellite wrote:
The amplified version is $129SCVJeff wrote:
CA Traveler wrote:
wow.. That sucker is expensive..
Here's a link to the Razar Air including the amplified version.
$49.99 is expensive?
