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- donn0128Explorer IINo Def on that year. They have a dpf system. Great truck as long as no one has deleted it and run it to death.
- I would pass. Look for def equipped truck
- MudChuckerExplorerMy only concern is with knowing whether or not it's been tuned and driven to near death.
Those years are also candidates for death wobble. There is a 200 ish dollar kit that resolves the issue though. - spoon059Explorer IIAs has been stated, no DEF and the older style frame. Be aware that pre DEF 6.7 Cummins has a lower MPG than the DEF versions... usually 2-3 MPG worse. Lower HP and torque than a newer model as well. For the right price its a great truck, but don't overpay because of the Cummins name...
- Me_AgainExplorer III
M.R.E. wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a "10 Ram . What is your opinion about this vehicle ? Is this the year they started using DEF ? Will use it to tow a 5th wheel .
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chris - IdaDExplorer
Me Again wrote:
M.R.E. wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a "10 Ram . What is your opinion about this vehicle ? Is this the year they started using DEF ? Will use it to tow a 5th wheel .
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chris
A SRW 3500 is nearly identical to a 2500, unless the 3500 is an Aisin. Same truck with a lighter rear spring pack, and you can supplement that and get the same end result - door tag be damned.
Much better my arse... ;) - 45RicochetExplorer
Me Again wrote:
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chrisspoon059 wrote:
As has been stated, no DEF and the older style frame. Be aware that pre DEF 6.7 Cummins has a lower MPG than the DEF versions... usually 2-3 MPG worse. Lower HP and torque than a newer model as well. For the right price its a great truck, but don't overpay because of the Cummins name...
X2 on both. Shop for a DEF truck. - Me_AgainExplorer III
IdaD wrote:
Me Again wrote:
M.R.E. wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a "10 Ram . What is your opinion about this vehicle ? Is this the year they started using DEF ? Will use it to tow a 5th wheel .
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chris
A SRW 3500 is nearly identical to a 2500, unless the 3500 is an Aisin. Same truck with a lighter rear spring pack, and you can supplement that and get the same end result - door tag be damned.
Much better my arse... ;)
Not anymore, no coil spring is going to match a leaf spring suspension. Times have changed RAM has taken two different roads with the 2500/3500's! Chris - Greene728Explorer
Me Again wrote:
IdaD wrote:
Me Again wrote:
M.R.E. wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a "10 Ram . What is your opinion about this vehicle ? Is this the year they started using DEF ? Will use it to tow a 5th wheel .
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chris
A SRW 3500 is nearly identical to a 2500, unless the 3500 is an Aisin. Same truck with a lighter rear spring pack, and you can supplement that and get the same end result - door tag be damned.
Much better my arse... ;)
Not anymore, no coil spring is going to match a leaf spring suspension. Times have changed RAM has taken two different roads with the 2500/3500's! Chris
You won't ever convince him of that. We've had this row to hoe before and it's starting again. What the engineers say, the door payload numbers, different designations by the manufacturer, etc all say doesn't matter. What I'm wondering is if I make a few mods if I can somehow make my 3500 magically be a 4500??? Seems to work for 2500's. - Grit_dogNavigator
Greene728 wrote:
Me Again wrote:
IdaD wrote:
Me Again wrote:
M.R.E. wrote:
Thinking about purchasing a "10 Ram . What is your opinion about this vehicle ? Is this the year they started using DEF ? Will use it to tow a 5th wheel .
How heavy/big of a 5th wheel? Generally 3500 SRW are much better for 5th wheels vs 2500's.
Chris
A SRW 3500 is nearly identical to a 2500, unless the 3500 is an Aisin. Same truck with a lighter rear spring pack, and you can supplement that and get the same end result - door tag be damned.
Much better my arse... ;)
Not anymore, no coil spring is going to match a leaf spring suspension. Times have changed RAM has taken two different roads with the 2500/3500's! Chris
You won't ever convince him of that. We've had this row to hoe before and it's starting again. What the engineers say, the door payload numbers, different designations by the manufacturer, etc all say doesn't matter. What I'm wondering is if I make a few mods if I can somehow make my 3500 magically be a 4500??? Seems to work for 2500's.
Well if you don't understand that class 2 and 3 trucks are for most intents and purposes the same vehicle then there's no convincing you either. Chassis, running gear, wheels etc are generally the same with the exception of rear suspension and in Ram's case another trans is offered in 3500s.
Class 4 trucks are generally a completely different chassis and as diesels, de tuned. Iirc, this is not true for some F450s from a few years ago, that are a beefed up 350 dually.
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