11,700 gvrw

bbaker2001 wrote:
went back and looked, was off

Engine liters (L): 6.7
Cylinder configuration: I-6
Horsepower (hp): 370 @ 2,800RPM
Torque (lb.-ft.): 800 @ 1,600RPM
Fuel tank (gal.): 31
Curb weight (lbs.): 7,630
Gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) (lbs.): 10,700
Payload (lbs.): 4,070
Towing capacity (lbs.): 17,200
Gross combined weight rating (GCWR) (lbs.): 25,300

if weight is 7630 and I add 4070 that puts me over GVWR
I copied and pasted this time

I have a "light" fifth wheel and I am close to the GVWR. When the truck and trailer are loaded and all set for towing I found that I didn't have as much margin as I thought I would have.

Steer Axle - 4900 lbs - - Rating 5600 lb
Drive Axle - 6060 lbs - - rating is 7050 lbs Tires are rated 3525 lbs at 80 psi
Trailer Axle - 9220 lbs - - rating 10,400 lbs
Gross Weight - 20,180 lbs

Truck GVWR 11,600 lbs
Trailer GVWR 12,380 lbs

bbaker2001 wrote:
Looked on door panel
gvwr 11,700
GAWR front 6000
GAWR rear 7000
LT275/70R18E
80 psi
11700 - 7800 truck weight 3900 cargo doesn't sound bad compared to my 1/2 ton with only 1450

My new SB 2015 Laramie weighed in at 8220 coming out of the transfer station/dump the other day. Full fuel, no 5th wheel hitch yet. I weigh in at around 225, so the truck is pushing 8K empty! Chris

NC Hauler wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
My 15 DRW RAM Crew has a 14K GVWR but the rear axle is rated for 9,750# and the front axle is 6,000#. My loaded front axle is under at 5,460# and so is the rear at 9,580#, total 15.040#. My GCVWR is 37,800# and my combined weight is 32,500#.

I am under on all ratings except for GVWR of 14K. The reason the truck is only rated at 14K is because of licensing, insurance and the fact that anything over that changes it to a Medium Duty rated truck as if it were a 4500. The new 13 and newer RAM 3500HD Dually's are a 4500 with a 3500 badge. TFL tested the 3500 RAM and 450 Ford side by side, they are both SAE rated.

Don't believe me just look under a 10-12 RAM then look under a 13-16 RAM there is no comparison!

Remember, "I" told you all this back in May of 2013....................you're welcome:B

AAM rates the rear axle weight rating between 11,500#-11,800#, depending on who you talk to at AAM..(Ram rates it at 9750# with 17" tires filled to 65 psi ea X 4)..so you raise psi from 65 to 80 psi, max sidewall tire pressure and you just that easily raised the RAWR some more according to AAM, (NOT according to Ram). Referring to the 4.10 with Aisin and 11.8' axle...going by MY 13' specifications..

You sure did!!! And I thank you Sir.

Ram 3500 SRW (short bed) = 11,700 GVW
Ram 3500 SRW (Long bed) = 12,300 GVW
Same frame, axles, brakes everything. Not sure why 600 lbs less GVW.
I wouldn't worry, 600 lbs on this truck won't make a difference.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
My 15 DRW RAM Crew has a 14K GVWR but the rear axle is rated for 9,750# and the front axle is 6,000#. My loaded front axle is under at 5,460# and so is the rear at 9,580#, total 15.040#. My GCVWR is 37,800# and my combined weight is 32,500#.

I am under on all ratings except for GVWR of 14K. The reason the truck is only rated at 14K is because of licensing, insurance and the fact that anything over that changes it to a Medium Duty rated truck as if it were a 4500. The new 13 and newer RAM 3500HD Dually's are a 4500 with a 3500 badge. TFL tested the 3500 RAM and 450 Ford side by side, they are both SAE rated.

Don't believe me just look under a 10-12 RAM then look under a 13-16 RAM there is no comparison!

Remember, "I" told you all this back in May of 2013....................you're welcome:B

AAM rates the rear axle weight rating between 11,500#-11,800#, depending on who you talk to at AAM..(Ram rates it at 9750# with 17" tires filled to 65 psi ea X 4)..so you raise psi from 65 to 80 psi, max sidewall tire pressure and you just that easily raised the RAWR some more according to AAM, (NOT according to Ram). Referring to the 4.10 with Aisin and 11.8' axle...going by MY 13' specifications..

Looked on door panel
gvwr 11,700
GAWR front 6000
GAWR rear 7000
LT275/70R18E
80 psi
11700 - 7800 truck weight 3900 cargo doesn't sound bad compared to my 1/2 ton with only 1450

According to the 2013 RAM catalogue, the only Cummins/Aisin 4x4 Crew with 12,300# GVWR has an 8' box. The same truck with the 6'4" box has the 11,700# GVWR.

Maybe has nothing to do with the engine or power train. Just wheelbase and frame length?

My 15 DRW RAM Crew has a 14K GVWR but the rear axle is rated for 9,750# and the front axle is 6,000#. My loaded front axle is under at 5,460# and so is the rear at 9,580#, total 15.040#. My GCVWR is 37,800# and my combined weight is 32,500#.

I am under on all ratings except for GVWR of 14K. The reason the truck is only rated at 14K is because of licensing, insurance and the fact that anything over that changes it to a Medium Duty rated truck as if it were a 4500. The new 13 and newer RAM 3500HD Dually's are a 4500 with a 3500 badge. TFL tested the 3500 RAM and 450 Ford side by side, they are both SAE rated.

Don't believe me just look under a 10-12 RAM then look under a 13-16 RAM there is no comparison!

Sport45 wrote:
Some trucks are ordered with a lower GVWR to allow the owner to register it for less, or even avoid commercial registration. Same truck, just different GVWR ratings.

I know this is the case fir Ford and GM and assume it holds true for FCA trucks as well.

I was thinking this. The problem is that dropping from 11,700 down to 10,700 doesn't change anything regulation wise that I know of. The change on some insurance, parking, and DOT regulations happens when you go above 10,000 GVWR.
That's why my new work truck, a Chevy 3500, has a 10,000 GVWR instead of the normal 11,500 GVWR; the boss didn't want to pay the higher registration and insurance. It's the same truck, no differences what so ever, they just rate it lower to avoid the regulations. The downside is, of course, that technically it's rated lower. But, since in all my years of towing and hauling things with pick-up trucks for work and pleasure I've never once had anyone check the GVWR of the truck I don't think it's a big deal.

Some trucks are ordered with a lower GVWR to allow the owner to register it for less, or even avoid commercial registration. Same truck, just different GVWR ratings.

I know this is the case fir Ford and GM and assume it holds true for FCA trucks as well.