19ft choices; Hideout vs JayFlight

vicali wrote:
I was pleased with the tow, although I didn't cover that much distance, I did manage to take it out on the highway and up the pretty big climb to get it home.
4th gear cruising on the highway at 90kmh(55mph) was around 2500rpm, and it climbed the 5-7% grade in 3rd just under the speed limit. I was watching the Coolant temp and the ATF temp and they both peaked at 90C(194F) on the way up before they went back down to normal again.

Sounds good. Enjoy the new camper.

I was pleased with the tow, although I didn't cover that much distance, I did manage to take it out on the highway and up the pretty big climb to get it home.
4th gear cruising on the highway at 90kmh(55mph) was around 2500rpm, and it climbed the 5-7% grade in 3rd just under the speed limit. I was watching the Coolant temp and the ATF temp and they both peaked at 90C(194F) on the way up before they went back down to normal again.

vicali wrote:
Thank you to everyone for all your help,
we brought home our new Hideout yesterday;

Great looking combo. So how did tow ? Are you happy with that aspect ?

Now it's time to get out and do some fall camping. Have fun, and post more pics.

Thank you to everyone for all your help,
we brought home our new Hideout yesterday;

I have that model Jayco and love it, haven't had one problem and mine's an '06.

I'm actually having my trailer seals pressure tested in a couple of months. About $150 but it may save a lot of time, frustration, and money.

Really loved the 19BH and it was hard getting rid of it. BUT we love the 26BH even more with all the extra storage and the more open queen bed.

As Mike said, bad seal on marker light or corners. No way it leaked up past the siding.

WyoTraveler wrote:
I owned the Jayflight 19RD. Paid $14,734 out the door loaded for a new 2012. Main complaint I had was metal siding. We camped in all kinds of weather. When towing in a head on rain storm it leaked in front and would soak bedding. Don't think it is just Jayco though. The water appeared to be blowing upward and coming through the seams of the siding. If it was sitting still it would not leak.

The siding doesn't leak. There's no way for the rain to get up there and past, the interior wall. I've have driven in 60 mph winds in thunderstorms with the Jay Flights. Our area has some of the worse in the country. A few of the storms I was in even produced a few tornadoes. No leaks.

What you had unfortunately was a bad seal. This is common as the unit doesn't leak until rain is forced into the bad seal by driving in a storm. A simple pressure leak test would had shown this immediately, where the seal could had been fixed.

I guess it doesn't matter as you needed a larger camper anyhow.

Had a 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH. Very nice but the 2010 are even nicer with more cabinets. We only upgraded to the 26BH (same floorplan with additional queen bedroom in front of the sofa), because the 19BH was hailed damaged and had a pretty good insurance check. This way both kids will have their own bed while we have a lot more storage.

I wouldn't advise pulling even the 19BH with a Tacoma. The hitch weight rating is to low at 650 lbs. You will be right at the rating or slightly over. Plus you have a low 1100 lbs payload.

The 19BH was 3896 lbs dry as stated by the trailers yellow tread act sticker. Loaded up, it was about 5000 lbs. With an average 13% hitch weight, that's right at 650 lbs. Go over 5000 lbs and you'll be over loaded on your receiver hitch.

Now your payload is 1100 lbs. Many have seen 80% of the tongue weight going to the tow vehicles axles with a correctly adjusted weight distribution hitch, while 20% of the tongue weight goes to the trailer axles. With a 650 lbs tongue weight, that's 520 lbs going to the truck's axles (including the hitches own weight). With 1100 lbs - 520 lbs, you'll have 580 lbs left for you and any other passenger, tools, gear, and truck accessories (side steps, tonneau cover). If you have a normal size family, you won't have enough payload pulling the 19BH.

That's a heavy camper to being pulling with that Tacomas V6 that's low on output of 236 Hp and 266 lbs of torque.

I pulled that 19BH with a 2008 Sport Trac 4WD that had a 4.6L V8 with 292 HP and 300 lbs of torque and 1288 lbs payload (or 1218 lbs payload with hard tonneau cover).

It may work for you, but you'll be right at the Tacoma's limits for everything. After towing it, you may find yourself wanting to upgrade your truck to a more capable truck.

vicali wrote:
Jayco wheels; 205/75 r15
Hideout wheels; 205/75 r14?

Yes. And the wheels are fine. The tires as fitted from the factory are likely a whole 'nuther story, however. But that, as they say, is another topic for another time.