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May 27, 2013

2006 Hallmark Ute rotted wood repair

I'm going to start off my first post by saying I've been perusing this site for sometime, and have learned a lot...espcially lubing Happy Jacks.

My wife and I have had this Hallmark Ute for a year. We use it most for fishing and grouse hunting trips here in northern Minnesota. All in all we haven't had much for problems. When we purchased the camper, I did go around and sealed all of the joints on the roof.

This spring, during a overnight stay, our 100 lb. black lab decided he wanted to join us up in the bunk. He does have a tendancy to want to sleep at the foot of our bed at home. Well, when he leapt up into the cap-over bunk, I felt my feet drop down. After I booted the dog out, I crawled over to the foot end of the bunk(passenger side). I could feel a springiness at the front corner. There was not much I could do that night, so when morning came around, I had my wife to very carefully crawl over that corner while I stood outside. I could see the lower panel drop down and exposed some rotted wood.

I will say that my wife and I are fair weather campers. When not in use, it is stored inside my 30x40 storage building, completely dry.

Feeling a little sick to my stomach, when I got home and had a little time, I pulled the front panel off, and the following pictures is what I found. It is quite obvious that the previous owner did not weather proof at all during their ownership. The camper was 5 yrs old when we purchased.



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  • OP:

    Is the roof really rotted/leaking ?? What little of the roof I can see seems good. If you probe the roof and it is good (and dry), then your next concern are the camper shell side walls.

    IMO (I own a similar camper, however, made by Outfitter):

    Your water intrusion is/appears to come from where the camper shell soft-wall bottom perimeter is clamped-down to camper shell by that aluminum trim. The manufacturer suggests repairing (or, replacing with their new composite side-walls?) the port and starboard sides of the camper, and gave you a separate price for a new composite roof.

    It seems that you are into this camper for roughly $6000 ~ $7000, yes?

    If I were in your shoes, I would have Hallmark replace completely the camper shell sidewalls with their new composite sidewalls (one-piece) and repair the entire cab-over section (this will bring your total investment up to $ ????).....but I don't know...this is a tough one.

    If the roof is gone, you'll likely have to sink that $10,000+ into it (or, re-build 65% of the entire camper yourself! These are really complex campers and may be 1-piece in many areas, and that roof can be extremely tricky to re-build IF the roof trusses are wood and water compromised: think about that soft-wall, and removing it and re-stretching it to a completely new roof AND new side-walls if the roof trusses and wood roof deck are gone, this could be a nightmare (or, outright impossible to accomplish) if its not done by the manufacturer with special equipment/expertise).

    *one of the probable reasons why Hallmark mentions replacing softwalls in your above quote could be that the new composite roof may need a different softwall MATING pattern entirely (length/distance/pleat/cut)??

    Have you tried your insurance company? An insurance company would for sure write it off, and at least you'd get part of your investment back.

    Silver-
  • Slightly off the subject but the poster did bring it up; I want to meet a woman who hunts grouse!
  • Why not get a repair estimate from a local RV place instead of relying on what seems like a way to costly a repair price from the factory?
  • going from the pics you posted it looks like your unit has fiberglass sides on wood..that nose peice almost looks like it is mdf board..i would start poking at the edges with an awl to see if it is glued together or just held by the trim...the new frame you showed is built from peices of plastic/wood composite like used in decking or painted wood and appears to be fairly simple..it takes some time to figure out how they put it together.. best of luck and it can be done
  • Looking at this picture from the factory, which I assume is their new composite material, I may need to remove the whole wall. If I can pull off the siding, I could use the siding as a template to cut a new wall, but the wall appears to be one piece!

  • I have really appreciated the topics others have posted with their rebuilds and rotted wood issues. Most if not all, have older campers with aluminum siding and wooden frames. With little I could find on the building of the Hallmark brands is that they do not use a frame..??

    I do not have the option to remove pieces of aluminum to expose any wood. The sides on these campers appear to be of a one piece design. See below...





    I have emailed Hallmark about making repairs and it aint cheap.

    Replace the roof with their new one piece composite(fiberglass), replace the soft walls, and repair all of the hard walls...$10,700

    To repair just the hard walls...$6500

    I picked this camper up from a dealer sale (as is)at a very good price... a lot less than 1/2 of what Hallmark was asking for the exact year and model at the time...$16,000(their asking price).

    My question, has anyone attempted this type of build? Can the siding be removed from the wall or is it glued in place and un-repairable.

    If I can get the wood repaired/replaced myself, my plan is to seal the roof with Rhino lining all the way to the edges. It wouldn't matter to me to cover the aluminum roof trim. This is where I think it was leaking anyway.

    The soft wall is in perfect condition; no tears in the canvas or screen material, only small rusty stains where the staples are holding the canvas to the wood.

    Thanks for your time.
  • Really sorry to see that kind of damage. Is this something you are going to tackle or are you going to let the professionals at Hallmark work on it?

    Guess I should be grateful for living in the desert.