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fosstugz
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Jan 03, 2013

2012 5.3L Yukon XL

The Mrs. and I are looking at stepping into the TT realm with our two little ones. We've got a new Yukon XL with the 5.3L package. I'm unsure about the ratio, so i'll have to check the sticker at home. Initially, i didn't think towing the trailer's we've been looking at with this rig was going to be an issue, but the more I read, i'm starting to go into panic mode.

I'm expecting to do the usual upgrades including LT tires, WD hitch, brake controller, sway control and air bags. Potentially the trans cooler.

The TT's we're looking at are either the Windjammer 3006WK (6,984lbs dry/877lbs hitch weight) or the Laredo 303TG (7,473lbs dry/905lbs hitch weight). Granted, these things are pushing 36ft, and that's scary enough.

I'm think I'll be pushing the GVWR limit on this ride, TT dealer says no problem, but that doesn't leave me with the warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Basically i want something in a BH over the 29ft mark with nice finishes inside. We've looked at a lot, and these two seems to fit our bill, but may be outside of the Yukon's survivability.... I don't want to destroy a tow that costs twice the trailer.

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  • fosstugz's avatar
    fosstugz
    Explorer
    Jul 22, 2013
    Ever since i put the external trans cooler in I noticed that the trans wasn't acting right. I figured it was just the wear and tear we had put on it on the two trips with the trailer we'd taken considering the 3.08's. I checked the fluid, and must not have completely removed the air bubble after the cooler install and top-off as I had to add another quart of fluid. Previously I had added about 1/2 quart. Amazing enough, once I added the additional fluid, I have had NO issues.

    We pulled again the last two weekends over the pass to the coast and she pulled like a champ. It was 100F ambient at the top of the pass and even though the engine temp was creeping in the 230F range basis 2nd gear at 3000RPM and the AC on, the trans temp never hit 175F.

    I decided to keep the trans in regular auto T/H mode and not play with the manual mode. I didn't have one issue going or coming.

    I think the fluid did the trick on several fronts. I'm pretty happy about the set-up right now and don't think i'll be doing the 3.42's anytime soon. Although, I do want to pull up the Sierra's, we'll see how far I get. At 7mpg, it won't be far........
  • Tystevens's avatar
    Tystevens
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    The Texan wrote:
    Mine is programed like yours APT. The M4 just means the highest gear it will run in is 4, otherwise it will go through the gears from a start like normal.


    Yeah, people often misunderstand this feature for being a "manual shift" type feature where you can force a gear to be held, as in my Subaru or prior Acura. The M feature just limits the top gear that can be accessed.
  • Tystevens's avatar
    Tystevens
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    APT wrote:
    Ty, I've noticed different behavior when using M2 in tow/haul vs. normal trans modes. Normal, it starts in 2nd gear. In Tow/Haul mode, mine starts in first gear. Of course, yours and mine are probably programmed differently.

    The only thing I am aware of lost with Manual mode with tow/haul is the engine braking. I'll take that trade off of never shifting too high or hunting and downshifting myself if necessary.


    Honestly, I'm not sure if t/h disables the 2nd gear start feature in my '10 as far as starting in 2nd gear; I haven't screwed around with it that much. I just recall in my '05 dropping it into second when, say, coming off a freeway exit, stopping at the bottom, and then struggling to get going because I had forgot to shift back to 3 or D.

    I am just quite impressed with the programming on this transmission when in t/h. It downshifts when needed (with just a tap on the brake pedal), seems to avoid hunting pretty well, and shifts quickly and crisply when towing. I haven't felt the need to get involved too much thus far. As such, my recommendation to the OP would be to try D t/h engaged for a bit and see if he has the same issues.
  • The_Texan's avatar
    The_Texan
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    Mine is programed like yours APT. The M4 just means the highest gear it will run in is 4, otherwise it will go through the gears from a start like normal.
  • APT's avatar
    APT
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    Ty, I've noticed different behavior when using M2 in tow/haul vs. normal trans modes. Normal, it starts in 2nd gear. In Tow/Haul mode, mine starts in first gear. Of course, yours and mine are probably programmed differently.

    The only thing I am aware of lost with Manual mode with tow/haul is the engine braking. I'll take that trade off of never shifting too high or hunting and downshifting myself if necessary.
  • fosstugz's avatar
    fosstugz
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    I've been trying to find a happy place for the towing experience. It does almost feel like it's starting off in 2nd. I'll try just leaving it in 4th and see how she does the next time we go out.
  • Tystevens's avatar
    Tystevens
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    fosstugz wrote:
    I am in tow/haul mode and I manually shift and it downshifts into 1st. Temps in town are about 160-170F.


    Why do you manually shift it? The benefits of t/h are largely mitigated when you are in manual shift mode. IMO, the programming in t/h is pretty good; I leave mine in D most of the time I am towing.

    Also, if you manually shift into 2nd, it will stay there and probably not shift to 1st -- this is the "slippery road start" feature to avoid wheelspin from takeoff. In my last Suburban, I sometimes would manually downshift to 2nd coming to a stop, and accidentally left it in 2 when the light turned green. Trying to start off was less rapid than anticipated, because it will stay in 2nd gear. But the t/h downshifting when braking in my '10 is aggressive enough that I seldom feel the need to override it in manual.
  • Go_Dogs's avatar
    Go_Dogs
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    We started out towing a hybrid with a 1/2 ton Suburban. Wasn't too bad. Wanted the Burb because we were hauling kids/dogs. Then we went to a Class C. Then, went to a 25ft TT. The Suburban was very underpowered. I am not any type of mechanic but I felt the Suburban transmission was getting a little, 'slippy' while driving without the TT. This spring, it was time to buy tires for the Burb. Didn't feel comfortable keeping it as TV. 2500 Suburbans are very hard to find in this area, nice ones are too $$ for my pocket. We listened to some good advice here on the forum, and got a used, one-ton van. Not real pretty,(white), but it does the job. The dealer gave us a generous trade on the Suburban. If you ever feel as if you need to find another TV, consider a van. Good luck with your new TT. Look's like a lot of fun!
  • Buck50HD's avatar
    Buck50HD
    Explorer
    May 30, 2013
    What RPM does it rev up to from a stop? The converter stall speed should be around 2500RPM when you first nail it. I had a 4-spd 5.3 with 3.73's so probably equivalent to your 3.08 and 6-spd first gear. When you have an already low 335 ft-lb torque at 4000RPM and the converter limits it to 2500RPM, it's going to feel like a turd when you take off from a stop, especially when heat soaked. Might just be normal. You said it wakes up around 15mph which is where it starts getting in to the torque peak.

    Keep in mind that your 1st gear overall ratio is comparable to the 3.73 "towing" gears of the past 4 spds so I wouldn't sweat it.

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I'm expecting to do the usual upgrades including LT tires, WD hitch, brake controller, sway control and air bags. Potentially the trans cooler.

The TT's we're looking at are either the Windjammer 3006WK (6,984lbs dry/877lbs hitch weight) or the Laredo 303TG (7,473lbs dry/905lbs hitch weight). Granted, these things are pushing 36ft, and that's scary enough.

I'm think I'll be pushing the GVWR limit on this ride, TT dealer says no problem, but that doesn't leave me with the warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Basically i want something in a BH over the 29ft mark with nice finishes inside. We've looked at a lot, and these two seems to fit our bill, but may be outside of the Yukon's survivability.... I don't want to destroy a tow that costs twice the trailer.

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I'm expecting to do the usual upgrades including LT tires, WD hitch, brake controller, sway control and air bags. Potentially the trans cooler.

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I'm think I'll be pushing the GVWR limit on this ride, TT dealer says no problem, but that doesn't leave me with the warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Basically i want something in a BH over the 29ft mark with nice finishes inside. We've looked at a lot, and these two seems to fit our bill, but may be outside of the Yukon's survivability.... I don't want to destroy a tow that costs twice the trailer.

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2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267798"},"body":"Ever since i put the external trans cooler in I noticed that the trans wasn't acting right. I figured it was just the wear and tear we had put on it on the two trips with the trailer we'd taken considering the 3.08's. I checked the fluid, and must not have completely removed the air bubble after the cooler install and top-off as I had to add another quart of fluid. Previously I had added about 1/2 quart. Amazing enough, once I added the additional fluid, I have had NO issues.

We pulled again the last two weekends over the pass to the coast and she pulled like a champ. It was 100F ambient at the top of the pass and even though the engine temp was creeping in the 230F range basis 2nd gear at 3000RPM and the AC on, the trans temp never hit 175F.

I decided to keep the trans in regular auto T/H mode and not play with the manual mode. I didn't have one issue going or coming.

I think the fluid did the trick on several fronts. I'm pretty happy about the set-up right now and don't think i'll be doing the 3.42's anytime soon. Although, I do want to pull up the Sierra's, we'll see how far I get. At 7mpg, it won't be far........","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-07-22T11:43:33.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-07-22T11:43:33.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":450},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267798","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:218006":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:218006","uid":218006,"login":"Tystevens","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-03-08T14:57:05.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:218006"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267797":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267797","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267797":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:218006"},"id":"message:267797","revisionNum":1,"uid":267797,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267797"},"body":"
The Texan wrote:
Mine is programed like yours APT. The M4 just means the highest gear it will run in is 4, otherwise it will go through the gears from a start like normal.


Yeah, people often misunderstand this feature for being a \"manual shift\" type feature where you can force a gear to be held, as in my Subaru or prior Acura. The M feature just limits the top gear that can be accessed.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-05-30T15:27:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-05-30T15:27:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":452},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267797","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267796":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267796","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267796":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:218006"},"id":"message:267796","revisionNum":1,"uid":267796,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267796"},"body":"
APT wrote:
Ty, I've noticed different behavior when using M2 in tow/haul vs. normal trans modes. Normal, it starts in 2nd gear. In Tow/Haul mode, mine starts in first gear. Of course, yours and mine are probably programmed differently.

The only thing I am aware of lost with Manual mode with tow/haul is the engine braking. I'll take that trade off of never shifting too high or hunting and downshifting myself if necessary.


Honestly, I'm not sure if t/h disables the 2nd gear start feature in my '10 as far as starting in 2nd gear; I haven't screwed around with it that much. I just recall in my '05 dropping it into second when, say, coming off a freeway exit, stopping at the bottom, and then struggling to get going because I had forgot to shift back to 3 or D.

I am just quite impressed with the programming on this transmission when in t/h. It downshifts when needed (with just a tap on the brake pedal), seems to avoid hunting pretty well, and shifts quickly and crisply when towing. I haven't felt the need to get involved too much thus far. As such, my recommendation to the OP would be to try D t/h engaged for a bit and see if he has the same issues.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-05-30T15:26:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-05-30T15:26:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":450},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267796","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:217879":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:217879","uid":217879,"login":"The_Texan","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-01-16T06:54:56.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:217879"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267795":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267795","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267795":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:217879"},"id":"message:267795","revisionNum":1,"uid":267795,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267795"},"body":"Mine is programed like yours APT. The M4 just means the highest gear it will run in is 4, otherwise it will go through the gears from a start like normal.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"154","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-05-30T12:01:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-05-30T12:01:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":451},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267795","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:343504":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:343504","uid":343504,"login":"APT","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2010-06-09T10:24:14.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:343504"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267794":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267794","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267794":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:343504"},"id":"message:267794","revisionNum":1,"uid":267794,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267794"},"body":"Ty, I've noticed different behavior when using M2 in tow/haul vs. normal trans modes. Normal, it starts in 2nd gear. In Tow/Haul mode, mine starts in first gear. Of course, yours and mine are probably programmed differently.

The only thing I am aware of lost with Manual mode with tow/haul is the engine braking. I'll take that trade off of never shifting too high or hunting and downshifting myself if necessary.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-05-30T11:36:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-05-30T11:36:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":451},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267794","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267793":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267793","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267793":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:267521"},"id":"message:267793","revisionNum":1,"uid":267793,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267793"},"body":"I've been trying to find a happy place for the towing experience. It does almost feel like it's starting off in 2nd. I'll try just leaving it in 4th and see how she does the next time we go out.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"196","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-05-30T10:29:23.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-05-30T10:29:23.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":451},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:267695/message:267793","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:267792":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:267792","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:267792":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:218006"},"id":"message:267792","revisionNum":1,"uid":267792,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:267695"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:267695"},"subject":"Re: 2012 5.3L Yukon XL","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:267792"},"body":"
fosstugz wrote:
I am in tow/haul mode and I manually shift and it downshifts into 1st. Temps in town are about 160-170F.


Why do you manually shift it? The benefits of t/h are largely mitigated when you are in manual shift mode. IMO, the programming in t/h is pretty good; I leave mine in D most of the time I am towing.

Also, if you manually shift into 2nd, it will stay there and probably not shift to 1st -- this is the \"slippery road start\" feature to avoid wheelspin from takeoff. In my last Suburban, I sometimes would manually downshift to 2nd coming to a stop, and accidentally left it in 2 when the light turned green. Trying to start off was less rapid than anticipated, because it will stay in 2nd gear. 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Wasn't too bad. Wanted the Burb because we were hauling kids/dogs. Then we went to a Class C. Then, went to a 25ft TT. The Suburban was very underpowered. I am not any type of mechanic but I felt the Suburban transmission was getting a little, 'slippy' while driving without the TT. This spring, it was time to buy tires for the Burb. Didn't feel comfortable keeping it as TV. 2500 Suburbans are very hard to find in this area, nice ones are too $$ for my pocket. We listened to some good advice here on the forum, and got a used, one-ton van. Not real pretty,(white), but it does the job. The dealer gave us a generous trade on the Suburban. If you ever feel as if you need to find another TV, consider a van. Good luck with your new TT. 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