FishOnOne wrote:Huntindog wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Huntindog wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:Ford also has some maintainence requirements that the other two do not..fivecodys wrote:
I'm starting to 'kick the tires' and I really like the F-350 Ford.
What are you guys hearing about their new 6.7L PowerStroke?
Did they get it right this time?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Bill
Define "get it right." :)
The good is, this engine is waaaaaaaaaaay better than the 6.0 or 6.4 Nav engines. All in all they seem to be a pretty good engine.
The bad?...........well:
Lots and lots and lots of turbo problems. This one is very troubling because it seems as if Ford can't fix the problem.
Some HPFP and fuel system problems. Not too many of these but BIG, BIG bucks to fix! :E And most of the time Ford will blame you and you will have to pay for it. :E
Quite a few valve problems.
More than I like to see engine failures. I think most of these were from valve failures though so if they fixed the valve problems most of the catastrophic engine failure will go away. It seems like the valve problems are going away so maybe they fixed that problem.
Antifreeze needs to be tested often using the proper kit.. There is more than one available, and even the dealers sometimes get it wrong. This actually has a message that pops up on the DIC.
The fuel filter needs to drained IIRC every 3 weeks
Ford STRONGLY recommends in writing that you use their PM 22 fuel additive religiously. Some have even had to sign a paper about this on delivery.
And Ford seems to have forgotten how to make a radiator that doesn't leak. And they are VERY proud of the replacements that they sell. Which still leak.
Some incorrect information provided here by Huntindog:
1. Fuel filter does not need to be drained every 3 weeks per Fords Owners guide supplement.
2. Ford does not require PM22 per Fords Owners guide supplement. I know of no one who had to sign a document including my own purchasing experience.
3. Antifreeze is mainly tested for Nitrates because a lot of quick lube shops tend to top off the radiater fluid and chances are they will top off with the incorrect antifreeze. ELC coolant testing is a common practice including CAT.
Fish, I have been here a looong time. I don't knowingly post bogus info....My memory was little hazy. Ford REQUIRES draining of the fuel filter once a month, not every 3 weeks as I recalled.
I am posting the link to where you all can see the Ford read and sign document for yourself. It is clickable in post #519.
Ford read and sign (Click on the image link)
Again.... Huntindog Where does it say Ford requires to use PM22
More fear Mongering!! :R
Huntindog wrote:FishOnOne wrote:Huntindog wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:Ford also has some maintainence requirements that the other two do not..fivecodys wrote:
I'm starting to 'kick the tires' and I really like the F-350 Ford.
What are you guys hearing about their new 6.7L PowerStroke?
Did they get it right this time?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Bill
Define "get it right." :)
The good is, this engine is waaaaaaaaaaay better than the 6.0 or 6.4 Nav engines. All in all they seem to be a pretty good engine.
The bad?...........well:
Lots and lots and lots of turbo problems. This one is very troubling because it seems as if Ford can't fix the problem.
Some HPFP and fuel system problems. Not too many of these but BIG, BIG bucks to fix! :E And most of the time Ford will blame you and you will have to pay for it. :E
Quite a few valve problems.
More than I like to see engine failures. I think most of these were from valve failures though so if they fixed the valve problems most of the catastrophic engine failure will go away. It seems like the valve problems are going away so maybe they fixed that problem.
Antifreeze needs to be tested often using the proper kit.. There is more than one available, and even the dealers sometimes get it wrong. This actually has a message that pops up on the DIC.
The fuel filter needs to drained IIRC every 3 weeks
Ford STRONGLY recommends in writing that you use their PM 22 fuel additive religiously. Some have even had to sign a paper about this on delivery.
And Ford seems to have forgotten how to make a radiator that doesn't leak. And they are VERY proud of the replacements that they sell. Which still leak.
Some incorrect information provided here by Huntindog:
1. Fuel filter does not need to be drained every 3 weeks per Fords Owners guide supplement.
2. Ford does not require PM22 per Fords Owners guide supplement. I know of no one who had to sign a document including my own purchasing experience.
3. Antifreeze is mainly tested for Nitrates because a lot of quick lube shops tend to top off the radiater fluid and chances are they will top off with the incorrect antifreeze. ELC coolant testing is a common practice including CAT.
Fish, I have been here a looong time. I don't knowingly post bogus info....My memory was little hazy. Ford REQUIRES draining of the fuel filter once a month, not every 3 weeks as I recalled.
I am posting the link to where you all can see the Ford read and sign document for yourself. It is clickable in post #519.
Ford read and sign (Click on the image link)
FishOnOne wrote:Huntindog wrote:Turtle n Peeps wrote:Ford also has some maintainence requirements that the other two do not..fivecodys wrote:
I'm starting to 'kick the tires' and I really like the F-350 Ford.
What are you guys hearing about their new 6.7L PowerStroke?
Did they get it right this time?
Thanks in advance for your comments.
Bill
Define "get it right." :)
The good is, this engine is waaaaaaaaaaay better than the 6.0 or 6.4 Nav engines. All in all they seem to be a pretty good engine.
The bad?...........well:
Lots and lots and lots of turbo problems. This one is very troubling because it seems as if Ford can't fix the problem.
Some HPFP and fuel system problems. Not too many of these but BIG, BIG bucks to fix! :E And most of the time Ford will blame you and you will have to pay for it. :E
Quite a few valve problems.
More than I like to see engine failures. I think most of these were from valve failures though so if they fixed the valve problems most of the catastrophic engine failure will go away. It seems like the valve problems are going away so maybe they fixed that problem.
Antifreeze needs to be tested often using the proper kit.. There is more than one available, and even the dealers sometimes get it wrong. This actually has a message that pops up on the DIC.
The fuel filter needs to drained IIRC every 3 weeks
Ford STRONGLY recommends in writing that you use their PM 22 fuel additive religiously. Some have even had to sign a paper about this on delivery.
And Ford seems to have forgotten how to make a radiator that doesn't leak. And they are VERY proud of the replacements that they sell. Which still leak.
Some incorrect information provided here by Huntindog:
1. Fuel filter does not need to be drained every 3 weeks per Fords Owners guide supplement.
2. Ford does not require PM22 per Fords Owners guide supplement. I know of no one who had to sign a document including my own purchasing experience.
3. Antifreeze is mainly tested for Nitrates because a lot of quick lube shops tend to top off the radiater fluid and chances are they will top off with the incorrect antifreeze. ELC coolant testing is a common practice including CAT.
4x4ord wrote:
This is my first Ford. It had a small issue with the turbo right off the dealer lot. Ford was aware of the problem and told the dealer to wait for a new turbo which was to come right from the factory. They stressed not to install one from the parts department. I suspect there must have been a slight modification in the design of the turbo yet the service manager at my dealership said he couldn't see a difference between old and new. Anyway, I like my Ford far better than my 2010 GMC which is really a pretty good truck as well. The GM gets a little better fuel economy empty but the Ford does a little better pulling. The GM also does a smoother job of shifting and is always in the right gear where as the Ford occasionally makes a hard shift or might automatically chooses a gear too high both down and up hills. Ford has much nicer towing mirrors, seats, locking compartments, power outlets, info center, gear indicator and ability to lock out any number of gears. The interior feels as though it is much better quality. The ford is much quieter, has a much better torque converter and although the GM might win in a race the Ford seems to handle my 30,000 lb goose neck much better than the GM.
