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- Could be 'management mentality' of bottom line management, not managing their
product (boy that Nissan/Cummins thread has me going...) These folks do NOT
understand king of hill lost leader making it up on general badge
recognition and the volumes that then comes along 'years' later...remember
this mentality's horizon is just a few quarters, not years out
Like that GM had direct injection Caddy gasser killing the market, but decided to
'keep' it only in their high end (highest margin) over a decade before Ford came
out with the F150's direct injection...what would the lay of the land
now look if those bean counters allowed in their truck lineup over a
decade ago
Understand, but am a huge big block fan...ever since we stuffed a L88 into our
Vette we raced on weekends. Also sold out of that partnership after one race...knew
I'd kill myself as that year body did not have a L88 option...
So not stiff enough and it went 'that-a-way' when I wanted to go 'this-a-way'
Am in a huge minority loving big blocks, but okay with me...am happy with my 7.4L
and am in a 'gosh darn' position of 'having' to rebuild it soon... ;)
Suspect the aluminum block isn't up to hours and hours WOT towing several tons
Just my guess and know it 'can' be done, but the R&D cost (ROI) may not be
short enough for the bean counter management to risk their bonuses transamz9 wrote:
So why don't you have an LS 8.1?
8.1 was not an LS based motor and for what I do I don't need one.
That is why.
The 8.1 is a very good stump pulling motor, but really not necessary anymore. Why they don't put the 6.2 in the 3/4 ton is beyond me, but I think it has to do with cost of an Iron block VS an Aluminum block.- I don't think that the 8.1 was an LS engine...but I could be wrong..
- So why don't you have an LS 8.1?
BenK wrote:
ls1mike wrote:
BenK wrote:
In case you don't know what an LSA is it has 556 bhp and 551 lb/ft vs this
6.2L in discussion 420hp / 460tq
Might want to tell the difference in power is the fact that the LSA has this nice little device attached to it called a blower. Used in the CTS-V and Camaro ZL1
Oh, meant as a trick question for that guy who I've now blocked
disrespecting, dissing my technical understanding... :B
Also understand of which you speak in reference to a GMT400 7.4L's
issue, but that is what I have and won't buy anything new for a long time
Went through many of the issues and resolved most of them.
Have kept up on some of the newer engines and nothing that am interested
in yet. Now if they come out with a big block (love big blocks and
also know small blocks too) I'd be very interested.
Temp (normalized and ultimate internal) are some of the keys to keeping
them in power mode (highest level).
My 7.4L has some head work and the increased swirl at the throttle
settings does appreciate cutting back the ground strap. Yes, not
for every one, especially stock mud hen and folks who don't understand
nor know what power mode is...or that they wouldn't even know when
their ECU cuts back to lower levels of power mode until limp mode kicks in
Like I said I agree with you. I had a TBI 454 for years. Was a good truck, also had a "Vortec" 454. Both did not do as well towing as my 6.0, that is not to say they did a bad job or were not reliable but 6.0 did not have any of the "old" BBC issues.
Do I love a BBC...Heck yeah I do, but I am good with the LS motors so that is where I will stay!elkhornsun wrote:
Instead of 10% more horsepower I would be impressed with 10% more miles per gallon. Who over the age of 21 really cares whether a truck goes 0-60 in 8.5 or 8.1 seconds. In the first 100,000 miles the average owner is going to spend more than $20,000 for regular gas and a 10% improvement in fuel economy would put $2,000 in their pocket instead of those of oil company executives.
And that right there my RV bothers and sisters is a man with a spectacular idea. I don't care how fast you get up the hill, because a big rig will be slower. Hang out behind them and all is good.- Instead of 10% more horsepower I would be impressed with 10% more miles per gallon. Who over the age of 21 really cares whether a truck goes 0-60 in 8.5 or 8.1 seconds. In the first 100,000 miles the average owner is going to spend more than $20,000 for regular gas and a 10% improvement in fuel economy would put $2,000 in their pocket instead of those of oil company executives.
ls1mike wrote:
monkey44 wrote:
Don't know about all this tech discussion, but sure am happy with the '03 6.0L truck I've been driving for 204,000 miles. Am currently 3500 miles from home (in Seattle) on a cross-country trip and have no hesitation to trust it the rest of this trip and the next, and maybe the next.
Starts first turn, burns very little oil between changes, and purrs up the hills, kicking down a gear whenever it needs it. Would certainly like a new truck, the new smell and better mileage, but this 'paid-for' work-horse still earns its keep every day. And we can buy lots and lots of fuel for the cost of a new one. Still dream about it tho' and will keep dreaming until this one gives up ... :) :) :)
Good to hear as my 02 6.0 just rolled 34,500 miles. I will have a long time. That is advantage of living in Seattle(I am in Poulsbo)
The weather is fairly mild so stuff just does no wear out like in
other parts of the country.
HA, interesting - we're sitting at McChord AFB today, heading up to the rain forests tomorrow, and Rainier before we head south.
You got a lot of miles left on that 6.0L if you treat it right ... this one has been well-maintained since I bought it new. It always amazes me, each time I fire it up, it just rolls on over and starts, no waiting, no turnovers, just spark and start. Never have a bit of trouble with it except new A/C two years ago, and a few electronic components (that always wear out too soon). We're in the middle of a trip from Florida/Cape Cod/ Washington, down the coast, Death Valley and then back the southern route. Nothing like trusting your truck ...ls1mike wrote:
BenK wrote:
In case you don't know what an LSA is it has 556 bhp and 551 lb/ft vs this
6.2L in discussion 420hp / 460tq
Might want to tell the difference in power is the fact that the LSA has this nice little device attached to it called a blower. Used in the CTS-V and Camaro ZL1
Oh, meant as a trick question for that guy who I've now blocked
disrespecting, dissing my technical understanding... :B
Also understand of which you speak in reference to a GMT400 7.4L's
issue, but that is what I have and won't buy anything new for a long time
Went through many of the issues and resolved most of them.
Have kept up on some of the newer engines and nothing that am interested
in yet. Now if they come out with a big block (love big blocks and
also know small blocks too) I'd be very interested.
Temp (normalized and ultimate internal) are some of the keys to keeping
them in power mode (highest level).
My 7.4L has some head work and the increased swirl at the throttle
settings does appreciate cutting back the ground strap. Yes, not
for every one, especially stock mud hen and folks who don't understand
nor know what power mode is...or that they wouldn't even know when
their ECU cuts back to lower levels of power mode until limp mode kicks inmonkey44 wrote:
Don't know about all this tech discussion, but sure am happy with the '03 6.0L truck I've been driving for 204,000 miles. Am currently 3500 miles from home (in Seattle) on a cross-country trip and have no hesitation to trust it the rest of this trip and the next, and maybe the next.
Starts first turn, burns very little oil between changes, and purrs up the hills, kicking down a gear whenever it needs it. Would certainly like a new truck, the new smell and better mileage, but this 'paid-for' work-horse still earns its keep every day. And we can buy lots and lots of fuel for the cost of a new one. Still dream about it tho' and will keep dreaming until this one gives up ... :) :) :)
Good to hear as my 02 6.0 just rolled 34,500 miles. I will have a long time. That is advantage of living in Seattle(I am in Poulsbo) The weather is fairly mild so stuff just does no wear out like in other parts of the country.
