Everyone who owns and enjoys their Ford truck should realize by now that you cannot have a decent discussion on Ford trucks on this forum because the haters will show up with their mythical horror stories from their BIL's cousins BFF who knows all about Ford trucks. The 6.7L PS and the 3.5L EB are enjoying a good reputation and reliability out in the marketplace where it counts and it translates to sales every month. Try as they might they make no difference in the real world. For obvious reasons the GM/Chevy guys are the most vehement because they lost that #1 spot some time back and are still losing ground. Ram may catch them soon with the improvements they have made. So I say to the haters; "Carry on and keep hating", my Ford serves me well and apparently a lot of other folks as well.