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- ShinerBockExplorer
FishOnOne wrote:
Are we good now Shiner? :W
Yes, we are good. I checked with a friend at Ford. It is not against contract as long as the techs are different. In other words, the Ford techs have to only be Ford techs and not Ram techs as well. I am sorry although I will dispute what was stated about reliability of the Cummins. ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Yes it's one dealer but has separate buildings between the Ford shop and the Chrysler, RAM, Jeep shop. It's nothing new!
In addition my mother (now retired) worked at a dealer for ~35 years and in one shop/building they currently sell/service Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Chrysler, Jeep and RAM. Again nothing new!
Can you see the light! :W
Please name this dealer or at least give a link to their website. Also, the name of your buddy would be helpful as well. I can guarantee you that their contract will be terminated soon if they service Ford and Rams out of the same shop.
Are we good now Shiner? :W- john_betExplorer II
ShinerBock wrote:
Not new here in my small hick town. Ford dealerships could not stand alone like Chevy, Chrysler/dodge so it set up shop with the Chrysler/Dodge dealer 20 plus years ago.
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it. - alboyExplorerI believe Dave Smith Motors in Idaho also sells GM/Ram
- The_Mad_NorskyExplorer
ShinerBock wrote:
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
:h I was just at one last summer.
Fremont Motors, Cody, Wyoming. They did an excellent job getting me in for an unscheduled service to change the fuel filters on my then vehicle, a 2011 F 350 Ford.
A link: Fremont Motors, Cody, Wyoming - SlownsyExplorerI thought the same coud be said for most of the 7.3 - 6 - 6.4
Frank. - Cummins12V98Explorer III
goducks10 wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
mich800 wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
3oaks wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
Who really cares. What really matters is how well it will tow at max GCWR,
Ken
X2
And there you have it.
But some people never grow up and are still stuck in the "my truck is faster than yours" mentality. :R
Did you see the Ford F150 2.7 EB vs the RAM 3.0 ED 0-60 times? And did you see these two trucks performance pulling a trailer up the Ike Gauntlet? It was very revealing that the one with the better 0-60 had the most reserved power during that pull comparison. :W
A 0-60 time is a metric that measures a trucks power and does have some correlation to a trucks pulling ability.
So the Ford will make it to the top of the hill first; YAAY!
We still haven't tackled that tough question of long term durability, Fish :W
Don't worry; Ford Motor Company doesn't want to discuss that either :B
Which engine are your referring to with respect to long term durability :h
Just because the eco diesel is new doesn't mean it will not prove out to be durable.
I was referring to the vehicle in the original post, the 2015 Ford 6.7L. I don't think there is any doubt that the Ford will be to the top of the hill before the Ram 6.7L Cummins but there is still the question of durability of the 2015 Ford 6.7L as noted in the video.
I still haven't seen any documentation as to the differences in the high pressure fuel pump on this engine compared to previous models, if in fact there are any. The other thing that a lot of people tend not to think about are the costs of long term ownership. If one chooses to research the Ford 6.7L they would see how complex this engine is, and removing the cab for major engine repairs is not something most are capable of in the driveway. We have a couple of them at work and looking under the hood of these trucks is enough to give the best of techs nightmares.
In respect to the Ecodiesel in the Ram, I'm not sure why so many were slagging it in the other thread. It seemed to do very well in that pull test, given the specs of the engine. It seems to be suffering from random failures of the CP4 high pressure fuel pump, just like the Ford 6.7L, though.
Funny how blofgren has to change to discussion when discussing the performance of the 6.7 Power Stroke... I can say that the dealer my cousin works at has more techs wrenching the RAM cummins than the Ford shop wrenching on the Power Strokes and this dealer sells way more Super Duty's than RAM's.
And this is coming from a old GM fan... Just so you know! :W
Time will tell but I'm happy that I am not one of the test mules!
Let's hope your not a test mule like many 6.7 cummins owners were with their head gasket failures.
Link
Was he running a tuner? I vary rarely read about a blown head gasket on a stock Cummins at the Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum.
All he can find are people running tuners and deleted. I have called him on it for over a year now but he hopes to get someone to believe that is not informed.
The 6.7 Cummins is a solid engine as long as you don't screw with it! It will handle massive power with adding head studs. - Cummins12V98Explorer III
FishOnOne wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
He has been blowing the same ol smoke for a long time. Who knows what the truth is. At least he provides entertainment.
The blind fanboys such as yourself is less than entertaining!
You hurt my "FEELING" :) - jasonlisanExplorerI'm one of the test mules!!! Someone has to be right??? ;) If it holds up like my 6.0 & 6.4 did, then I'm in good shape!!!
- transamz9Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:
3oaks wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
Who really cares. What really matters is how well it will tow at max GCWR,
Ken
X2
And there you have it.
But some people never grow up and are still stuck in the "my truck is faster than yours" mentality. :R
Did you see the Ford F150 2.7 EB vs the RAM 3.0 ED 0-60 times? And did you see these two trucks performance pulling a trailer up the Ike Gauntlet? It was very revealing that the one with the better 0-60 had the most reserved power during that pull comparison. :W
A 0-60 time is a metric that measures a trucks power and does have some correlation to a trucks pulling ability.
There are bone stock cars that run 0-60 in 3 seconds. Bet they would make killer tow vehicles.........
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