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blofgren
Mar 30, 2015Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:blofgren wrote:mich800 wrote:blofgren wrote:FishOnOne wrote:3oaks wrote:TXiceman wrote:
Who really cares. What really matters is how well it will tow at max GCWR,
Ken
X2
And there you have it.
But some people never grow up and are still stuck in the "my truck is faster than yours" mentality. :R
Did you see the Ford F150 2.7 EB vs the RAM 3.0 ED 0-60 times? And did you see these two trucks performance pulling a trailer up the Ike Gauntlet? It was very revealing that the one with the better 0-60 had the most reserved power during that pull comparison. :W
A 0-60 time is a metric that measures a trucks power and does have some correlation to a trucks pulling ability.
So the Ford will make it to the top of the hill first; YAAY!
We still haven't tackled that tough question of long term durability, Fish :W
Don't worry; Ford Motor Company doesn't want to discuss that either :B
Which engine are your referring to with respect to long term durability :h
Just because the eco diesel is new doesn't mean it will not prove out to be durable.
I was referring to the vehicle in the original post, the 2015 Ford 6.7L. I don't think there is any doubt that the Ford will be to the top of the hill before the Ram 6.7L Cummins but there is still the question of durability of the 2015 Ford 6.7L as noted in the video.
I still haven't seen any documentation as to the differences in the high pressure fuel pump on this engine compared to previous models, if in fact there are any. The other thing that a lot of people tend not to think about are the costs of long term ownership. If one chooses to research the Ford 6.7L they would see how complex this engine is, and removing the cab for major engine repairs is not something most are capable of in the driveway. We have a couple of them at work and looking under the hood of these trucks is enough to give the best of techs nightmares.
In respect to the Ecodiesel in the Ram, I'm not sure why so many were slagging it in the other thread. It seemed to do very well in that pull test, given the specs of the engine. It seems to be suffering from random failures of the CP4 high pressure fuel pump, just like the Ford 6.7L, though.
Funny how blofgren has to change to discussion when discussing the performance of the 6.7 Power Stroke... I can say that the dealer my cousin works at has more techs wrenching the RAM cummins than the Ford shop wrenching on the Power Strokes and this dealer sells way more Super Duty's than RAM's.
And this is coming from a old GM fan... Just so you know! :W
I wasn't trying to change the subject, just trying to clarify the confusion in a previous post. You may want to reread my post above where I stated that the Ford 6.7L would beat the Ram Cummins to the top of the hill. Ford has spent a lot of money both in "tuning up" the 6.7L engine and creating blatantly obvious one sided infomercials showing so.
Again, to clarify; what they still have not discussed or proven are the specific changes that have been made to the 2015 model, especially in regards to the high pressure fuel pump and the long term durability of the "improved" engine. Time will tell but I'm happy that I am not one of the test mules!
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