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- goducks10Explorer
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
mich800 wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
3oaks wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
Who really cares. What really matters is how well it will tow at max GCWR,
Ken
X2
And there you have it.
But some people never grow up and are still stuck in the "my truck is faster than yours" mentality. :R
Did you see the Ford F150 2.7 EB vs the RAM 3.0 ED 0-60 times? And did you see these two trucks performance pulling a trailer up the Ike Gauntlet? It was very revealing that the one with the better 0-60 had the most reserved power during that pull comparison. :W
A 0-60 time is a metric that measures a trucks power and does have some correlation to a trucks pulling ability.
So the Ford will make it to the top of the hill first; YAAY!
We still haven't tackled that tough question of long term durability, Fish :W
Don't worry; Ford Motor Company doesn't want to discuss that either :B
Which engine are your referring to with respect to long term durability :h
Just because the eco diesel is new doesn't mean it will not prove out to be durable.
I was referring to the vehicle in the original post, the 2015 Ford 6.7L. I don't think there is any doubt that the Ford will be to the top of the hill before the Ram 6.7L Cummins but there is still the question of durability of the 2015 Ford 6.7L as noted in the video.
I still haven't seen any documentation as to the differences in the high pressure fuel pump on this engine compared to previous models, if in fact there are any. The other thing that a lot of people tend not to think about are the costs of long term ownership. If one chooses to research the Ford 6.7L they would see how complex this engine is, and removing the cab for major engine repairs is not something most are capable of in the driveway. We have a couple of them at work and looking under the hood of these trucks is enough to give the best of techs nightmares.
In respect to the Ecodiesel in the Ram, I'm not sure why so many were slagging it in the other thread. It seemed to do very well in that pull test, given the specs of the engine. It seems to be suffering from random failures of the CP4 high pressure fuel pump, just like the Ford 6.7L, though.
Funny how blofgren has to change to discussion when discussing the performance of the 6.7 Power Stroke... I can say that the dealer my cousin works at has more techs wrenching the RAM cummins than the Ford shop wrenching on the Power Strokes and this dealer sells way more Super Duty's than RAM's.
And this is coming from a old GM fan... Just so you know! :W
Time will tell but I'm happy that I am not one of the test mules!
Let's hope your not a test mule like many 6.7 cummins owners were with their head gasket failures.
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Was he running a tuner? I vary rarely read about a blown head gasket on a stock Cummins at the Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum. - DirtyOilExplorer
Da Fish wrote:
In addition my mother
Now, that's low dragging dear ole mom into this! - mich800Explorer
ShinerBock wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
Yes it's one dealer but has separate buildings between the Ford shop and the Chrysler, RAM, Jeep shop. It's nothing new!
In addition my mother (now retired) worked at a dealer for ~35 years and in one shop/building they currently sell/service Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Chrysler, Jeep and RAM. Again nothing new!
Can you see the light! :W
Please name this dealer or at least give a link to their website. Also, the name of your buddy would be helpful as well. I can guarantee you that their contract will be terminated soon if they service Ford and Rams out of the same shop.
I am not sure what you are implying or did not understand in his post. Multi brand dealers are nothing new. My hometown has a Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealer and I am close friends with the family. I don't know if they have a separate service building for each brands service dept. But Fish says the dealer he is referring to does. So your either did not understand that part or you are clearly incorrect that a dealer cannot own multiple brand franchises. - ShinerBockExplorer
FishOnOne wrote:
Yes it's one dealer but has separate buildings between the Ford shop and the Chrysler, RAM, Jeep shop. It's nothing new!
In addition my mother (now retired) worked at a dealer for ~35 years and in one shop/building they currently sell/service Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Chrysler, Jeep and RAM. Again nothing new!
Can you see the light! :W
Please name this dealer or at least give a link to their website. Also, the name of your buddy would be helpful as well. I can guarantee you that their contract will be terminated soon if they service Ford and Rams out of the same shop. Cummins12V98 wrote:
ShinerBock wrote:
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
He has been blowing the same ol smoke for a long time. Who knows what the truth is. At least he provides entertainment.
The blind fanboys such as yourself is less than entertaining!ShinerBock wrote:
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
Yes it's one dealer but has separate buildings between the Ford shop and the Chrysler, RAM, Jeep shop. It's nothing new!
In addition my mother (now retired) worked at a dealer for ~35 years and in one shop/building they currently sell/service Chevrolet, Buick, GMC, Chrysler, Jeep and RAM. Again nothing new!
Can you see the light! :W- blofgrenExplorer
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
blofgren wrote:
mich800 wrote:
blofgren wrote:
FishOnOne wrote:
3oaks wrote:
TXiceman wrote:
Who really cares. What really matters is how well it will tow at max GCWR,
Ken
X2
And there you have it.
But some people never grow up and are still stuck in the "my truck is faster than yours" mentality. :R
Did you see the Ford F150 2.7 EB vs the RAM 3.0 ED 0-60 times? And did you see these two trucks performance pulling a trailer up the Ike Gauntlet? It was very revealing that the one with the better 0-60 had the most reserved power during that pull comparison. :W
A 0-60 time is a metric that measures a trucks power and does have some correlation to a trucks pulling ability.
So the Ford will make it to the top of the hill first; YAAY!
We still haven't tackled that tough question of long term durability, Fish :W
Don't worry; Ford Motor Company doesn't want to discuss that either :B
Which engine are your referring to with respect to long term durability :h
Just because the eco diesel is new doesn't mean it will not prove out to be durable.
I was referring to the vehicle in the original post, the 2015 Ford 6.7L. I don't think there is any doubt that the Ford will be to the top of the hill before the Ram 6.7L Cummins but there is still the question of durability of the 2015 Ford 6.7L as noted in the video.
I still haven't seen any documentation as to the differences in the high pressure fuel pump on this engine compared to previous models, if in fact there are any. The other thing that a lot of people tend not to think about are the costs of long term ownership. If one chooses to research the Ford 6.7L they would see how complex this engine is, and removing the cab for major engine repairs is not something most are capable of in the driveway. We have a couple of them at work and looking under the hood of these trucks is enough to give the best of techs nightmares.
In respect to the Ecodiesel in the Ram, I'm not sure why so many were slagging it in the other thread. It seemed to do very well in that pull test, given the specs of the engine. It seems to be suffering from random failures of the CP4 high pressure fuel pump, just like the Ford 6.7L, though.
Funny how blofgren has to change to discussion when discussing the performance of the 6.7 Power Stroke... I can say that the dealer my cousin works at has more techs wrenching the RAM cummins than the Ford shop wrenching on the Power Strokes and this dealer sells way more Super Duty's than RAM's.
And this is coming from a old GM fan... Just so you know! :W
Time will tell but I'm happy that I am not one of the test mules!
Let's hope your not a test mule like many 6.7 cummins owners were with their head gasket failures.
Link
It's risky but I'll take the chance :B - Cummins12V98Explorer III
ShinerBock wrote:
I have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
He has been blowing the same ol smoke for a long time. Who knows what the truth is. At least he provides entertainment. - ShinerBockExplorerI have never heard of a dealer that sells Rams and Fords on the same service shop. Must be some kind of new thing that only a select few know of. Oh, and this is coming from a person that has worked for Ford and Cummins so be careful how you respond and it better be the truth because I will see right through it.
- Cummins12V98Explorer IIIFish give the 6.7 Cummins head gasket failure a break! You know all your examples are from engines that have tuners and are deleted!
This is what the op said in the comments section.
"I believe it was from overheating during a high speed run... wanted to see if the truck was governed. Leaned into the throttle pretty good for an excessive period, got it up around 100mph and shut it down. Not long after that i noticed the bubbles in my coolant overflow. Its a very common problem with the 6.7, too much boost and high EGTs will do it quick. My next mod is a set of pillar gauges to monitor all of that..."
I ran my 11 HO at the limiter for many miles at 104 mph rolling across hyw 10 heading to Phoenix more than once and towed my combined load of 29K+ at 75 or more into strong headwinds many times with no ill effects!
Add a tuner and do the deletes it's a different game.
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