2015 powerstroke 440hp/860tq

spoon059 wrote:

Road Runners wrote:
I want a diesel and the towing capacity of an F-250 at that price. It is doable. There are many buyers like me that would snap up such a truck. I say to hell with this power, breast thumping, race every new truck year.

I agree. The price and weight of a diesel is so excessive because of the ridiculous power numbers they create. There is barely a difference between most 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks (weight ratings because of springs usually). I would like a 8800 GVWR truck with a diesel engine that creates 350 HP and 450 or 500 ft/lbs of torque at 1800 rpms and gets 20 mpg highway that is available for $35K or less.

I don't need 800 ft/lbs torque. I don't need 500 hp. I don't want 14 mpg all the time. There is not really any logical reason for a 3/4 ton truck. Manufacturers can offer a lower GVWR in a 1 ton truck and escape the need to offer the 3/4 ton.

500 ft lbs of torque at 1600 RPM's in a mid sized diesel wouldn't eat as much payload and may actually get 20+ mpg. There's a novel idea! Exactly what I've been saying. That is about what the much vaunted 7.3L made around the turn of the century and it was plenty of power. Heck some of you still think it was the "end all" Ford diesel.