2015 powerstroke 440hp/860tq

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

720Deere wrote:
You seem pretty fond of doing your internet research. Ford parts prices are posted all over the net.

I know you are very well informed and I don't need to tell you this, but the valves weren't "switched out in 15". The valves that they had trouble with were early job 1 2011 trucks.

Why yes I am, thank you very much.

From the 2009 Innovation Awards wrote:


As a matter of a fact a member here must have a real good crystal ball. Man, I'll give it to him, he hit it right on the nose looooooooongggggggggggg before it even happened. Look at his post:

Huntindog wrote:
This has been discussed before, and the following was given as Fords reasoning for the plastic oil pan.

The oil or sump pan on the 6.7 is manufactired from a Dupont 6/6 Nylon/Aluminium composite. It is said to be lighter, STRONGER, and less costly to manufacture than the aluminium only pans.


My concern is long term durability of the plastic pan.
Plastic degrades faster than metal over time. This process is accelerated with heat.
Oil pans rusting out became a problem when auto makers started using thinner, lighter less costly steel to make them.

Notice the similarities in the two highlighted statements? The auto makers like to focus on the lighter aspects of these designs,,,,but just how much weight savings does this gain? IMO, not much. They are more concerned about the bottom line. If they save a small amount, even only a dollar on a part, that dollar goes directly to profit. The consumer is the loser.
I can assure you that Ford is NOT using the same high tech very exspensive composites used in our nations best defense airplanes

I think that this is a primarily cost savings move by Ford. This plastic pan will likely perform well for Ford in the relatively short time that they have to warranty it.. I doubt that will be true long term.

OTOH...The Dmax uses a more costly aluminum oil pan. NO rusting out, and excellent long term durability

Funny thing is he posted this on 11/26/2011. Again, my hat is off to Huntindog for the crystal ball of the year award. Have any lotto numbers you can give me Huntindog? :B

About the valves: FMC disagrees with you.
Here is Fords own TSB:

Ford wrote:
Some 2011-2013 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L.............Bla, bla, bla, yada, yada, yada............

Try again, this is fun! :B

I remember that post.. The boys in blue really beat me up pretty good over that.

Interesting how when Ford went back to a steel pan that lower cost was again cited as a benefit..
And the boys in blue overlooked the similarities in the propaganda on both pans, jumping on the bandwagon as it Ford had reinvented the wheel, er steel pan.