2015 powerstroke 440hp/860tq

But then I have no pathological need.

Pot callin kettle black...

Whether you publicly put yer hand out for "bailout cash" or sneaked in the back door (Ford) to grab tax payer money... its still takin money to stay alive... Can't figure out why... "blue cool-aid drinkers" pathologically deny Ford ever took government money, be it a bail out or back door deals.(ask the union works at ford if FMC ever put the money they took from the pension fund back into the workers pension fund?) They still took public/taxpayer dollars to keep their heads above the bankruptcy waters, like so many other American "great" companies....and foreign.