article and videoSurprising difference across the different brands (and cab choice). Interesting material if you are in the market and safety is high on your list.

Interesting how some makers will attack the test if they have trouble passing!

I was highly critical of Ford's performance with the small overlap with the extended cab last year. Glad they fixed it. I'm surprised at how poor the Ram and Tundra performed. Thanks for sharing!Jeremiah

Odd crash test: "small overlap front crash"I love my Fords, but what is with all these individual crash tests? Sometimes it seems like they are tailoring the crash tests to get the results they want. What about taking results from all the different tests and averaging them? Front, rear, 1/2 front, sideswipe, the small overlap test in the original post, etc. Are averaged results of all crash tests available somewhere?

I was also very critical of Ford for the Extended cab's poor performance and missing safety equipment last year. Credit to them for going above and beyond with the fixes in the new model year. I hope the other brands can match that performance on their next new models.

Tvov wrote:Odd crash test: "small overlap front crash"I love my Fords, but what is with all these individual crash tests? Sometimes it seems like they are tailoring the crash tests to get the results they want. What about taking results from all the different tests and averaging them? Front, rear, 1/2 front, sideswipe, the small overlap test in the original post, etc. Are averaged results of all crash tests available somewhere?What happens is the Manufactures get quite adept at keeping the occupants safe. So then the testing agencies find new ways of challenging the structure of the vehicle, hents the small overlap. It is not an easy test to do well on, as all the force is applied outside of the frame rails.Individual crash tests are the best way to determine the likelihood of injury to occupants of the vehicle in a controlled, repeatable environment. If you want them combined, you can go to IIHS or NHTSA and read, they have the results from each vehicle they've tested.jerem0621 wrote:I was highly critical of Ford's performance with the small overlap with the extended cab last year. Glad they fixed it. I'm surprised at how poor the Ram and Tundra performed. Thanks for sharing!JeremiahAgreed on all points. Glad you enjoyed.

2016 half ton IIHS crash testing small overlap | Good Sam Community

patriotgrunt
Explorer
Apr 13, 2016
FishOnOne wrote:
The F150 is what good engineering is all about.... and it was expected Ford would perform the updates to the extended cap trucks in MY '16 and not disrupt other crash test attributes. Good on Ford...

What wasn't expected and is very concerning is RAM played down these results "As they know better" and performed very poorly. The body structure received a "Poor" rating that's completely unacceptable with today's products. Shame on ram...

We're likely to not hear a lot from the other crowds. If this was about a problem with Ford we'd be on page 12 by now.
FishOnOne
Nomad
Apr 13, 2016
shepstone wrote:
patriotgrunt wrote:
Interesting results...I wonder how many people will now choose the aluminum cage vs. steel before they release the bear.

I'd be running for the closest one regardless of which metal its made of!

LOL... That was one big bad a$$ bear in that Chevy commercial
shepstone
Explorer
Apr 13, 2016
patriotgrunt wrote:
Interesting results...I wonder how many people will now choose the aluminum cage vs. steel before they release the bear.

I'd be running for the closest one regardless of which metal its made of!
FishOnOne
Nomad
Apr 13, 2016
patriotgrunt wrote:
Interesting results...I wonder how many people will now choose the aluminum cage vs. steel before they release the bear.

I know if it was a shark cage I would choose aluminum. :W
FishOnOne
Nomad
Apr 13, 2016
The F150 is what good engineering is all about.... and it was expected Ford would perform the updates to the extended cap trucks in MY '16 and not disrupt other crash test attributes. Good on Ford...

What wasn't expected and is very concerning is RAM played down these results "As they know better" and performed very poorly. The body structure received a "Poor" rating that's completely unacceptable with today's products. Shame on ram...
v10superduty
Explorer
Apr 12, 2016
This test result does not really matter cause according to PBDBoy, the Ford Supercab is the most dangerous truck you could ever put your family in. Not the safest as this test shows.
However it looks to me like the poor guy in the FCA would sure have a sore foot in this test. :S
patriotgrunt
Explorer
Apr 12, 2016
Interesting results...I wonder how many people will now choose the aluminum cage vs. steel before they release the bear.
45Ricochet
Explorer
Apr 12, 2016
I hope Don keeps a good eye out for poles and trees :B
Fast_Mopar
Explorer
Apr 12, 2016
transferred wrote:
This is good to hear. When Ford dangerously de-contented the non-crew cab F150s last MY some idiots defended them. Glad that Ford have come to their senses and done the right thing.

I agree completely.

Here is a quote from the link: "Ford said it didn’t have enough time to outfit the SuperCab for last year’s tests, but since then has added wheelblockers, nylon hinge pillar reinforcements and rocker cab reinforcements that help in this particular crash scenario." That is really hard to believe that, in their own words, they "didn't have enough time" to do the right thing on certain cab styles last year. Certainly the other manufacturers are behind Ford in this type of crash scenario, and I am sure they will all make changes in their next redesigns. But, it still bothers me that Ford chose to add blockers to one cab configuration last year but not to the other style. Either way, it is fixed now, so that is good.
transferred
Explorer
Apr 12, 2016
This is good to hear. When Ford dangerously de-contented the non-crew cab F150s last MY some idiots defended them. Glad that Ford have come to their senses and done the right thing. We run mostly 1-tons at my company but we order a few 1/2 tons every four years so they stay in warranty. The F150 regular cab long bed is back in the running now (top of my list in the segment, in fact) I'm pleased to say as it was otherwise a very nice little truck.