2016 Toyota Tundra to come with Cummins diesel

Don't think it is a stunt. No one wants a 1/2 ton to pull a 5th wheel. A whole lot of people would like one that gets 25 MPG.

fla-gypsy wrote:
If they put it in the current 1/2 ton it will be useless

dshelley wrote:
We're not seeing new half ton trucks powered by Diesel engines to satisfy heavy duty wishes, rather it's meeting regulatory demands for fuel mileage. Demands that today's gas powered engines and steel body trucks cannot comply with. Government says better fuel economy, we customers say keep prices reasonable. Tall order, one which will be met only with existing technologies, like small Diesel engines and aluminum structures. It will, however, provide interesting comments from the yesterday worshippers who lack the ability to appreciate necessary change.

Yes, Yes AND YES!! I currently drive a 03 Tundra. Would buy a new one if it was in a 3/4 ton or better configuation, but it won't be. I need a TV with more payload, and diesel or not, this will never pull a 5th wheel - although I actually saw a Tundra doing just that on I95 heading north- with its nose in the air.

Just like the new Ram 1500 with the diesel, its a stunt to get a PU with th "best in class" mileage.

powderman426 wrote:
You guys are trying to finish this old man off aren't you? Putting a Cummin's in a foreign piece of******is sacrilegious.

You know powderman, both my Grandad's have passed away, one in 1978 when I was 6 years old and the other this last September. Your comment took me back to them because they both would have said the exact same thing. I can vividly see my Grandma's, who are both gone as well, scornfully calling out their names as they roll their eyes and shake their heads. I loved them greatly and miss them terribly, thanks for the laugh.

Can't hurt my Cummins stock price!

goducks10 wrote:

powderman426 wrote:
You guys are trying to finish this old man off aren't you? Putting a Cummin's in a foreign piece of******is sacrilegious.

That foreign piece of*******that tied with the Ford150 for the most U.S made content will now have a U.S made diesel. Looks like they're just keeping it U.S made.

I used to call out ignorant posts like that too but now I chuckle and ignore them and have discovered that I'm much happier. :)

70% of those type of posts are trolling, the other 30% really believe what they're typing so trying to change their mind is like trying to reason with a plant.

otrfun wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

GeoBoy wrote:
It is really strange that Toyota is using such a big engine in a half ton pickup. Also Toyota has a lot of experience with diesel engines in their Hino truck line and they have just introduced a small turbo diesel in their forklift line that meets tier four emmissions. Very strange.

It's called marketing. :)

Doesn't matter if fugangelipduck engine company is the best and build the best diesel engine in the world. In the US people recognize the Cummins name. That is what they want.

The Dmax is a damn good engine but I bet if Chevy got the Cummins to put in their trucks they would sell more. It's just the way it is.

+1 on the marketing.

If I had to guess there's two huge reasons Toyota is considering the Cummins diesel for their Tundra truck:

1. The Cummins name is well-known and respected. Hard to put a real value on that. Truck buyers are notorious for being emotionally bonded to a certain image. Toyota learned this the hard way with the 2007-2013 Tundra. For a lot of truck buyers, the Tundra will be more of a "real" truck with the Cummins.

2. Much lower R&D costs. Cummin's did all the expensive, hard work to meet EPA requirements.

IMO, if Toyota can match-up a nice Aisin tranny and boost payload/towing to 2000/12,500 lbs. respectively, and keep empty highway MPG's in the low 20's, they'll have a very competitive 1/2 ton, for sure! As much as some folks want Toyota to enter the 3/4 ton market, they won't. Why would they? They're having enough trouble remaining competitive in the 1/2 ton arena.

My hat's off to Ram, Nissan, and Toyota! They're shaking things up and that's a very cool thing :B

Spot on post on every single point. IMHO of course. :W

goducks10 wrote:

powderman426 wrote:
You guys are trying to finish this old man off aren't you? Putting a Cummin's in a foreign piece of******is sacrilegious.

That foreign piece of*******that tied with the Ford150 for the most U.S made content will now have a U.S made diesel. Looks like they're just keeping it U.S made.

Cummins engines are in use in all kinds of applications and built in facilities all over the world. I'm sure they are happy to sell to anyone wanting to use their products............

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

GeoBoy wrote:
It is really strange that Toyota is using such a big engine in a half ton pickup. Also Toyota has a lot of experience with diesel engines in their Hino truck line and they have just introduced a small turbo diesel in their forklift line that meets tier four emmissions. Very strange.

It's called marketing. :)

Doesn't matter if fugangelipduck engine company is the best and build the best diesel engine in the world. In the US people recognize the Cummins name. That is what they want.

The Dmax is a damn good engine but I bet if Chevy got the Cummins to put in their trucks they would sell more. It's just the way it is.

+1 on the marketing.

If I had to guess there's two huge reasons Toyota is considering the Cummins diesel for their Tundra truck:

1. The Cummins name is well-known and respected. Hard to put a real value on that. Truck buyers are notorious for being emotionally bonded to a certain image. Toyota learned this the hard way with the 2007-2013 Tundra. For a lot of truck buyers, the Tundra will be more of a "real" truck with the Cummins.

2. Much lower R&D costs. Cummin's did all the expensive, hard work to meet EPA requirements.

IMO, if Toyota can match-up a nice Aisin tranny and boost payload/towing to 2000/12,500 lbs. respectively, and keep empty highway MPG's in the low 20's, they'll have a very competitive 1/2 ton, for sure! As much as some folks want Toyota to enter the 3/4 ton market, they won't. Why would they? They're having enough trouble remaining competitive in the 1/2 ton arena.

My hat's off to Ram, Nissan, and Toyota! They're shaking things up and that's a very cool thing :B

GeoBoy wrote:
It is really strange that Toyota is using such a big engine in a half ton pickup. Also Toyota has a lot of experience with diesel engines in their Hino truck line and they have just introduced a small turbo diesel in their forklift line that meets tier four emmissions. Very strange.

It's called marketing. :)

Doesn't matter if fugangelipduck engine company is the best and build the best diesel engine in the world. In the US people recognize the Cummins name. That is what they want.

The Dmax is a damn good engine but I bet if Chevy got the Cummins to put in their trucks they would sell more. It's just the way it is.

powderman426 wrote:
You guys are trying to finish this old man off aren't you? Putting a Cummin's in a foreign piece of******is sacrilegious.

That foreign piece of*******that tied with the Ford150 for the most U.S made content will now have a U.S made diesel. Looks like they're just keeping it U.S made.