2017 F350

What puzzles me about Ford since they dropped the 7.3L International engine is this:

They have had continual engine issues with their diesels and continue to change/tweak them constantly. Some years it must be said have a very bad reputation (warranted or not)

So why on earth havn't they made a deal with CAT to produce a really good engine similar to the Cummins for light duty trucks?

That CAT badge on the fender would not only look good but hark to a solid reputation for near perfect dependability.

I like Fords and even though I have a Dodge...it was because of the Cummins engine. If Ford had had a similar CAT I would possibly have bought that...or at least given it consideration.

This seems like a no-brainer marketing decision to me.

PS: And when Mack decides to make a pickup...well the big three will all be in big trouble.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
When is Ford going to spill the beans on the new SAE specs?

Prolly still trying to figure out what else they can remove from the test truck to get its payload and towing capacity a couple more pounds over the other big two ......sorry guys I couldn't help myself. Lol

What you say is true! At least in the recent past.

All this nonsense in the hope someone will be influenced to buy a Ram , is it that important to you :h

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
When is Ford going to spill the beans on the new SAE specs?

Prolly still trying to figure out what else they can remove from the test truck to get its payload and towing capacity a couple more pounds over the other big two ......sorry guys I couldn't help myself. Lol

What you say is true! At least in the recent past.

4x4ord wrote:

RobertRyan wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
I'm going to guess 475 HP and 930 lbft of torque and a platform that will be designed to go on from there. It's getting crazy but I like it.

Problem is torque and horsepower numbers get downgraded for the heavier F650-750 etc

That's true for good reason, but, Its much safer to put 500 HP under the hood of a little pick up truck because it will rarely make use of it. A big truck can use over 500 hp all day long.

Correct and put a lot more stresses on the components

RobertRyan wrote:

4x4ord wrote:
I'm going to guess 475 HP and 930 lbft of torque and a platform that will be designed to go on from there. It's getting crazy but I like it.

Problem is torque and horsepower numbers get downgraded for the heavier F650-750 etc

That's true for good reason, but, Its much safer to put 500 HP under the hood of a little pick up truck because it will rarely make use of it. A big truck can use over 500 hp all day long.

4x4ord wrote:
I'm going to guess 475 HP and 930 lbft of torque and a platform that will be designed to go on from there. It's getting crazy but I like it.

Problem is torque and horsepower numbers get downgraded for the heavier F650-750 etc

I'm going to guess 475 HP and 930 lbft of torque and a platform that will be designed to go on from there. It's getting crazy but I like it.

Me Again wrote:
So will the turbo outlet tube/adapter still be the same plastic one that breaks? There is a thread going on the Heartland forum about people carrying a spare or replacing it with a aftermarket SS one. And the OP had a lot of oil on the turbo wheel, which others said is normal because crankcase vent is routed to intake. How often does the intercooler have to be removed and cleaned? Chris

Of all the years I've been reading forums on the 6.7 PSD I probably read of less than half of dozen turbo tubes failing and most were running tuners and I don't know of anyone carrying a spare as there is no reason to carry one. As a matter of fact I've read of a lot more Ram trucks that the fan shroud getting chewed up by the engine fan. The Ford uses a centrifical device to separate the oil fumes from the crankcase fumes which has proven to be doing a adequate job. Never read of anyone ever having to clean out the intercooler either. At 95k miles on my truck none of these so called issues have developed.

Bottom line anything coming from this hater is questionable at best.

I do think the new Fords will be really good vehicles.

I mean, look at all the new cameras they're gonna have, which is a huge plus for us RV'ing folks.

Plus the version 2 diesel introduced in 2015 should be a great motor.

Add me to the list of those who are impatiently awaiting the towing/payload numbers for these vehicles.

So will the turbo outlet tube/adapter still be the same plastic one that breaks? There is a thread going on the Heartland forum about people carrying a spare or replacing it with a aftermarket SS one. And the OP had a lot of oil on the turbo wheel, which others said is normal because crankcase vent is routed to intake. How often does the intercooler have to be removed and cleaned? Chris