2017 F350

Both the pickups and CC trucks have new rear suspension but I don't know if it the same. Ford went with a longer spring pack in 2011 to give a better unloaded ride. This also resulted in sag but folks often associate sage with not being able to handle the load. In reality, the suspension is working as designed and airbags add nothing but esthetics. The 17+ trucks are going back to a shorter pack and also have a better tuned suspension due to the boxed frame. Should be the best of all worlds. Time and miles will tell.

taken wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

With the 17's redesigned springpack, you won't need to do anything to keep it level.

Are they using the same springs as the 450 cab/chassis now, or at least the same spring rate per pack?

Cummins12V98 wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

That explains the low 9,100# RAWR. Even in the 450 they want them to ride like a car.

You hit the nail on the head right there.

Cummins12V98 wrote:

taken wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

With the 17's redesigned springpack, you won't need to do anything to keep it level.

I would certainly hope so. Every 450 I have seen towing a DRV has air bags. And more than one of them complained about a bouncy ride even with the bags.

It was actually very funny the wife of a couple that pulled into DRV while we were there getting warranty work done told my wife we did not have enough truck and needed to get a F450 like they had. My wife just smiled.

That happen to us as were sitting at an rv park with our new 2001 35 ft alpenlite and new 2001 3500 chev dually. Man walked up and after a few minutes told us we don't have enough truck. Well what do you have and his answer was the same alpenlite as ours and a 99 f-250.

I really laughed inside on that answer and we talked about the subject for tooo long but he knew he was right. I became a friend of his later but no truck talk of any kind.

chevman

Yeah, I bet she needs to nod and smile a lot.

taken wrote:

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

With the 17's redesigned springpack, you won't need to do anything to keep it level.

I would certainly hope so. Every 450 I have seen towing a DRV has air bags. And more than one of them complained about a bouncy ride even with the bags.

It was actually very funny the wife of a couple that pulled into DRV while we were there getting warranty work done told my wife we did not have enough truck and needed to get a F450 like they had. My wife just smiled.

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

That explains the low 9,100# RAWR. Even in the 450 they want them to ride like a car.

FishOnOne wrote:

buc1980 wrote:
I don't understand why Ford beef up the truck and use 7 camera some for towing and they don't offer a 5th wheel preparation package on the 4x2.They got brake control in the truck but you can't use it because you don't have a hitch in the bed or the 7 pin plug.Ford engineering got to go back to school again.

I would hang tight... Sometimes with an all new design some options are limited to certain configurations until production is completely ramped up.

Are you serious? They have had 18 years to figure this new design out!

SoCalDesertRider wrote:
It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.

With the 17's redesigned springpack, you won't need to do anything to keep it level.

It would be nice if Ford would put the heavier F450 cab/chassis rear springs on the F450 pickups. Then nobody would need to do anything to the rear of a new 450 pickup. Ford always puts too soft rear springs on their pickups, regardless of class or year. The cab/chassis trucks get the real beef.